NRA chief calls gun ownership a 'fundamental human right,' rejects calls for new restrictions

You and those who like your post are the ones consistently wrong about almost everything

 

How about we address the core issues instead?

 

All that is asked of the police is that they follow the SOP's like the border patrol officer did. If they can't do that, they aren't being forced to wear the badge and uniform. If one of the tools of your vocation is a firearm that you strap on every day, clearly you have accepted the risk that your job requires the immediate engagement of unlawful armed force with lawful armed force. I leave excusing these officers to you. In WV a mom did exactly that, with only the pistol she lawfully carried in her purse, she promptly engaged the unlawful use of an AR-15 and stopped the threat before any innocent blood was spilt. You seem to be arguing that the lawful use of force is futile against the unlawful use of force and clearly reality does not square with your falsified assertion.

You are conflating the lawful use of force with the unlawful use of force. Do you also pretend that there is no difference between using your car to commute to work and using your car to unlawfully and deliberately strike and kill innocents?

And your claim is fake news. The United States ranks 64th in the per capita frequency on the list of countries that witnessed mass shootings from 1998 to 2015.

While the U.S. constitutes 4.6 percent of the world’s population, “it makes up less than 1.15 percent of the mass public shooters” and less than 1.5 percent of their murders.

Over the 18 years from 1998 to 2015, of 2,354 attacks and at least 4,880 shooters outside the United States and 53 attacks and 57 shooters within our country, the US are not only less frequent than other countries, they are also much less deadly on average.

You claimed you want to limit as much as possible the illegal possession of firearms, but then you refuse to comment on whether you approve of Stop and Frisk? Hmmmm.....

Why do you have a problem with Stop and Frisk which gives police an opportunity to disarm a criminal unlawfully carrying a firearm? Are you unaware that the vast majority unlawful shootings are committed by those who have no lawful right to keep and carry a firearm?

 

A perimeter fence, a gate to the parking lot and a metal detector do not detract from the appearance of the actual campus or the ambiance within the school. Beats taking way their rights when they grow up.

 

Funny how you ignored part of my post to say what you have.

 

No, it really doesn't... Hopefully, your all powerful God will realize the USA Constitution has been purposely misinterpreted for years and spite those doing that lying with locusts or plague.... or the 21st century equivalent...

Was hoping it was going to be COVID, but it just didn't thin the ranks as much as your leadership planned for...

 

This organization is nothing but talk. They have supported gun control throughout history. I’ll give them the middle finger. They only care about profits. Wayne Lapierre is a con artist. Selling the idea of anti gun control all while helping to ban bumpstocks at the same time. This organization will never have my support again.

The NRA has been more successful at creating gun control than any anti gun advocacy group out there! F them!

 

In bold ^^^ The GQP in a NUTshell....

That's the kind of accurate analogy I enjoy....

 

So your idea is we should just ban men? They seem to be the main issue in all of these

 

A comma is a pause in a sentence — it does not indicate a new thought. Had a semicolon been used you could have pretended like well regulated only applied to militias.

I am fine with taking guns to only being allowed one and requiring preregistration and vetting.

Saying a gun is similar to the spoken word is ridiculous, even for you.

 

I think one entrance could be a very bad scenario in more ways than one. Hostage situations comes to mind. But the other ideas are sound, and very intelligent in my opinion. In fact I think the Texas shooting has many examples of why teachers should carry! The cops stood outside for crying out loud. While kids!!!! Were being shot!

My guess is most of those teachers would have sprung into action faster than those cowards. My wife works at a school where not some but most teachers carry. This doesn’t make me nervous and it’s not a new development.

Guns are also not the problem. When I went to high school we had shotguns hanging in the rear window of our trucks to go duck hunting, chucker hunting, or rabbit hunting after school. No one went in and shot the school up either. It’s amazing right… if access to guns was the problem we would have had it happen then. We have a culture problem right now.

We are trying as a culture to become more accepting to violence. More lenient Sentencing's, more allowable drugs, defending of rioters, and actual advocation for violence by adult politicians who act like kids from both parties.

 

Zorro old mate. This has nothing to do with legislation but rather a cognitive bias embedded within thinking. Time and again on this board I have met with “How can I defend myself without a gun”? This has set up a strong word association gun = defence but it has also set up the embedded concept no gun = no defence and I get it that America is awash with guns but this idea that you cannot defend yourself without a gun is crippling. The recent attempted mass shooting of Asians at Laguna Beach church was thwarted by an unarmed man, who died and the pastor using a chair. The congregation then hog tied the shooter and I apologise but that bit of the story was delightful! I do wish that had got more air time as it might have stopped, even one or two more incidents because instead of becoming notorious as a shooter who killed so many Asians he ended as being humiliated

But I digress

Time and time again on this board I have been scoffed at for suggesting you CAN defend yourself without a gun. We do it all the time here. Famously Australia has strict gun laws. Famously we did a “gun buy back” Interestingly we have more guns per capital NOW than we did in 1996 before the buy back. So why has our gun violence rate not risen? Why are we not being victimised? Why aren’t our women being raped at gunpoint (and please do not post Australian stats on rape - they do not exist, our stats are a broader category called “sexual assault”)

New Zealand is following our lead



They, like us, have a real need for guns to control feral animals - mostly feral pigs, dogs, cats and possums Australia also has a huge feral animal population with feral pigs and buffalo being top of the danger list. (Crocs are not listed as an issue because they are protected and unless you are licensed you cannot kill them). However, as the NZ Prime minister says “You do not need an “Assault rifle” to kill feral animals”.

Again if we have more guns now than we did when we had nearly one mass shooting per year (in all the years since 1996 have been just three mass shootings. 2 family murder/ suicides and 1 idiot who shot four people)

Why are our statistics so low? Our gun violence rate is a fraction of yours and has not risen despite more guns.

The answer lies in an overlooked part of your second amendment “Well regulated Militia”. Well regulated - to me that means there should be more laws.

The one part of our legislation that seems to have worked best is the same reason Switzerland does not have a high gun violence rate. You can own a gun here BUT it must be locked away when not in use.

 

The point you missed is that rights have limits. I am sorry that is such a difficult concept for you to understand.

Here let’s try again:
Should a 12 year old be allowed to buy a AR?
Should they be allowed to buy body armor?
How about someone with a serious mental illness?

 

Yeah? Tell that to Trump haters who claim he should be prosecuted for 1/6. Also words have caused more deaths through out history than guns. Or did you not know that words can cause wars?

Also: LINK: Commas (Eight Basic Uses): IU East

So it does appear that you have trouble understanding English.

 

More guns = more gun deaths

That is unequivocal

 

They keep forgetting the part about “well regulated militia”

well regulated

Sensible gun laws

 

What part of your post do you feel I ignored? I am not black so I cannot speak for them — words alone are not an attack. Feel free to quote what part you feel I “ignored” and I’ll be happy to discuss it.

 

But there is a comma!!!!!
It means it doesn’t apply!!!!!!!

or something like that.

 

Again look at Australia, the UK, most of Europe in fact any industrialised nation and they all have one thing in common - strict gun control and waaaaaaaaay fewer gun deaths and mass shootings

 

LOL.

A 12 year old can't buy a AR

Anyone should be able to buy body armour

How do you logically or go about determining if someone is mentally fit?

Since there have been mow downs with vehicles, then should we also add mental stability to driving a automobile

 

So you believe the introductory phrase doesn’t apply to the rest of a sentence?

What is interesting is that the words you are referencing, ones meant to cause a riot or inflame are chargeable offenses. You keep proving me correct.

 

Rights have limits?!?!?!?! NO!!! REALLY?!?!?!

BTW, it is already illegal for 12 yr olds to own guns. It is also illegal for those with serious mental illnesses to own guns. Hasn't stopped either one from getting them though has it? Why? Because you continually want to add more restrictions to guns rather than address core issues. Why? Because your current restrictions aren't working and pushing for more and more restrictions is easier than dealing with core issues.

 

What they forget is this

 

Funny how you are using the 2nd explanation while ignoring the 1st. Not to mention the word "clause". Do you even know what the word "clause" means in legal terms?

And you keep defending the idea that Trump should be charged while ignoring that he said nothing that other politicians have not said...yet you don't call for their prosecution.

 

Switzerland comes to mind. So unequivocal is most definitely a moronic way to describe it. Cultures kill, not guns. If you want to be that bland in arguments you may as well add that

More Blacks = More murders.