Ukraine Bombs Waste Storage Site Inside Zaporozhye Nuclear Plant

If anyone is interested in reality instead of Putinist propaganda.

 

The US and EU didn't start the war in Ukraine. Russia did. Take it up with your own.

 

It wasn't an attack it was a rescue of the Russian-speaking population in Donbas and Luhansk regions where Neo Nazis (they are essentially Nazis) were killing Russian-speaking people.

Russia moved in to capture, destroy or force Kyiv to move back the artillery and Azov soldiers.

The US responded by supplying longer-range weapons and massive propaganda and that turned the 'special operation' into a war.

But the outcome is still likely to be Eastern Ukraine becomes an autonomous republic and central and western Ukraine trade with Western Europe, just as it would have been without the huge influx of weapons from the US.

 

Who benefits from starting the war in Ukraine?

Not Russia that's for sure.

And not the common people of the Ukraine nor Western Europe nor the US which is welcoming immigrants from Ukraine, well Biden / Harris welcome any and all immigrants.

The big owners of housing always welcome more immigrants.

And the weapons makers (called the 'defense industry') profit from weapons sold or given away (paid for in full by the government) to any conflict that can be started anywhere.

 

It is Biden's War.

B. Obama avoided sending too much in the way of weapons to Ukraine, though VP. Biden had the Ukraine folder and the CIA did a regime change in Ukraine, which got the ball rolling.

D. Trump was unwilling to send the huge amount of weapons to Ukraine and wanted statements about what was going on there, and the Democrats raised articles of impeachment against him for those actions.

Now they've got their war.

The claim it was Russia's war because Russia moved in military forces would also apply to every conflict the US has been in since the Civil War, since the US went into someone else's country in every instance. Who went where is evidently not sufficient basis for blame, otherwise the US would be at fault for taking Hawaii, and the Philippians, and for taking various small countries in hot parts of the World and for moving armies into Russia in 1917/18 and for Vietnam and Iraq and...

 

Thanks for the additional info.

 

In my opinion 'who benefits' is the core question.

It's not Russia but the Western Elite.

The common people in the West are also losing. Maybe democracy will fix the problem. A 'red wave' in the US.

(where 'red' means Republican in the US, means moderate Right wing)
(the US Democrats are a mix of moderate Left and far Right, that is 'the Elite' and the Globalists).

 

Not just the Western ones, all of them.

 

Yes, I suspect that's true, I was just trying to avoid getting too depressed.

Making the Ukraine uninhabitable will produce refugees to Western countries putting pressure on housing and raising rents and housing prices which will make big money for owners of apartment complexes, and Blackrock owns a lot of individual houses as well. So all property owners will make big money.

 

Yes, very true.

 

I don't think so. I think Ukraine will cease to exist and Russia will hold referendums throughout Ukraine as to whether the different areas want to be independent or join up with the country of their choice such as Russia, Poland, Romania and Hungary.

 

It will be interesting. Ukraine in the past had 74 years' worth of western intervention/interference. Wonder how it will go with Russia at the helm and future external forces dealing with what remains of Ukraine.

 

Putin is following through on his promise to Mariupol, and is rebuilding the city after the scorched earth policy of Azov. I'm sure the rest of Ukraine under Russia will fare just as well. (Hmmm! I wonder if this is why I read that construction in Russia is booming?)

 

Hmmmm, here's reality:



And the kid second from the left is wearing the Nazi Waffen SS 14th Division crest. Reality, yes sir

 

Like @Jeanette does you cannot justify military action wherever you want by pointing and yelling "NAZIS"!!!

 

Of course the fake news isn't covering it, but Russia has massive projects going at break neck speed rebuilding parts of former ukraine, now Novorossiya.

 

Once again, someone justifying any military action

 

8 years of nato meddling and genocide is plenty justification. Nazis are just extra for good measure. Deal with it.

 

Did you whinge and moan when the US invaded Iraq because of the no WMDs or Syria? No, probably not.

 

You do find it difficult to connect any dots can you? NATO was formed by former Nazis and the CIA & Deep State, Nazi driven. WEF with Klaus Schwab a Nazi. All their propaganda is designed to bamboozle the crap out of the majority into believing Russia is the bad egg. When in fact it is the latter who are the evil rotten eggs. If you look into history, Ukraine is the area where the Khazars were occupied. Many believe they still do exist there pulling all the strings as the evilest people on Earth. Then look at what happened after WWII. Parts of Ukraine embraced a lot of Nazi crap and took up Nazi ideologies. Coming back to more closer times, the CIA has been conducting operations within Ukraine to raise, train, support and fund units such as Right Sector, Azov Bn etc. These nutters have been severely brainwashed and Ukraine is a location taken advantage of by the Deep State and WEF to launder money, drug, weapon and human trafficking along with illegal bioweapon labs that Victoria Nuland 'fessed up to being actual labs in Ukraine funded by the Pentagon. Several years of warnings from Putin to EU/NATO to back off, with those hollow promises made by EU/NATO, Putin went in and is cleaning house of nazis and their ill-gotten ventures targeted mainly at Russian/Slavic people.

 

Of course not. I was all for the U.S. invading Iraq WMDs or no WMDs. I sent letters to President Bush urging him to do so.

 

Prove it with an unbiased source please.

 

Based on what, false narratives and gullible believers?

 

You can go and dig up old my posts, there is plenty to choose from, but I know you won't do that.

* = A very informative video.

Nato: seven decades of the evil alliance
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/nato-seven-decades-of-the-evil-alliance

Nazi Roots of Ukraine’s Conflict
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/28/nazi-roots-of-ukraines-conflict/

How and Why the US Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine
https://strategic-culture.org/news/...2014-coup-ukraine/?ysclid=l6cm7c7ofh395614730

George Soros has controlled Ukraine since 2012
https://cairnsnews.org/2022/02/28/george-soros-has-controlled-ukraine-since-2012/

FULL INTERVIEW: Lara Logan: Ukraine, Nazis, CIA, and United Nations | Flyover Conservatives *
https://banned.video/watch?id=622e5cdc2e10d76f49b20985

The Nazis of Ukraine
https://www.sott.net/article/466225-The-Nazis-of-Ukraine?ysclid=l68knenwep780614548

70 Years of the CIA Deep State in Ukraine
https://rumble.com/v1268pd-70-years-of-the-cia-deep-state-in-the-ukraine.html

Klaus Schwab & Hunter Biden linked to Ukrainian Bio-labs
https://afipn.com.au/klaus-schwab-hunter-biden-linked-to-ukrainian-bio-labs/

 

based on Saddam Hussein's regime opposed the will of the United States.