Read It: Here's the Supreme Court's Basis for Overruling Roe and Casey

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Well?
     
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    Repeating the same mistake over an over again, is a mistake.
    It's failed policy, because it simply doesn't work, history has shown that. I don't see how the result would be different then prohibition, gun purchases, or Virginia's law banning sex without the shades closed. It's all failed policy.
     
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    So people would have more unprotected sex if abortion was banned?
     
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    Rapes, and cases of incest would increase since criminal wanna be fathers think it forces their livestock to carry to term. That's my concern.
     
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    Why would these criminals care about their livestock carrying to term?
     
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    That question does nothing to alleviate the concern.
    But feel free to ask one sometime, you can start with that 13 years olds abuser I guess.
     
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    Who is that?
     
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    The kid who got pregnant, then had to leave the state for an abortion. Was all over the news..possibly in the beginning of this very thread, which started this whole discussion...
     
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    There's no evidence that the abortion was not available in the person's home State.
     
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    You think that the motivation for rapists committing rape is that the want to be fathers and so they want the victim to carry to term?
     
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    There is evidance patients were intimidated into leaving the state, the fact they didn't do it in their home state is enough evidance for the purpose of this forum.
     
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    Yes plenty of abusers just want to spread their seed.
     
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    Well that would be quite interesting if it was true. Can you support that with data?
     
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    If a 13 year old goes through a pregnancy, they are at serious risk aren't they?
     
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    About as serious as geriatric ones, which is 35+. But serious none the less. Where you going with that?
    It's all an extreme situation, even in a woman's prime
     
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    Wait, 35+ year olds are at serious risk of death from pregnancy?
     
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    Yep.
     
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    More so then at the age of 13.
     
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    Any support for this?
     
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    So where is the data?
     
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    Sounds like you got alot of research to do.
    I'm not a valid source.
     
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    Yes YOU are not a valid source, but aren't you saying that you've seen valid sources?
     
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    Yea, from experience, news, books, stories, unrelated statistics, facts,etc.
    Getting that all together for you to not change your mind sounds like a waste of time.

    There is not one link with a chart that says, "yep Vernan told you so"
     
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    I always change my mind when I see the data. You have not provided any though.
     
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    Here, this states the pregnancy complication are less with adolescent than geriatric.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2015245/
     
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