Russian Defense lines collapsing in Donetsk Oblast.

Among the thousands of Russians reportedly trapped in Lyman are members of the 752nd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment. It’s a regiment with a tragic tradition of getting cut off, surrounded and all but destroyed.​

Heh. Probably not the regiment to have anywhere on the front line, then.

 

Lyman has been encircled.

 

Ukraine has lost nothing as they will just keep attacking until the Russian invaders are forced out and all of Ukraine is liberated. NATO will give them all the arms needed for them to liberate their lands from the occupier. Absolutely no one recognizes or cares about Putin's obviously fake sham referendum.

 

Since Azov shelled and killed unarmed citizens in cities in the east of Ukraine, for example, how can you allege these proRussian separatists were armed?

 

There seems to be a lot of lying being done on the Russian and Ukranian sides. There seems to be a lot lying done by the Biden White House, too.

BTW, we all get to pay more for gas and groceries for the lying at the White House, for example, over Ukraine.

It seems those aligned with Ukraine are about regime change in Russia. Are you willing to pay more for gas and groceries, at least, for regime change in Russia?

 

So you are claiming that the proRussian terrorist went there unarmed as a flash mob just to sing “Katushiya”. Your post is so corrupted with falseness that it has self destroyed itself by its inherent ridiculocity.

 

Not to mention most of the "separatists" were actually just the Russian Army and the Wagner group.

 

Yes they were in Ukraine since 2014 after the then independent AZOVSKA battalion kicked the separistas dupas. Obama failed miserably and back stabbed the Ukies in 2014. That way Putin knew he could introduce Russian, Chechen and Wagner group fighters with impunity.

 

Yes, Obama was a terrible president. No arguments there.

 

Mediocre at best. Definitely not the guy to handle an opponent like Putin, though.

 

Did anyone else see where that Putin’s stooge Kadyrov says Russia needs to use tactical nukes because the Moskailiy abandoned Lyman.

 

Appears a good number of mlskhaili and seperatibes trainters escaped capture. Hope I am wrong . The good side needed a high body count of Moskhaili.

 

I am hopeful but am keeping a conservative outlook.

 

The fall of Lyman.

Ukraine claims control of key city of Lyman after Russians withdraw
Ukrainian forces had surrounded thousands of Russian troops in Lyman, in eastern Ukraine, before the retreat.
By Isabelle Khurshudyan, Ellen Francis, Erin Cunningham, Andrea Salcedo and Robyn Dixon1 hour ago

 

I think the most important thing is destroying their tekhnika and demoralizing their thugs to the point of disobeying Putler's orders and walking away.

 

Russian tank drivers crash in doomed offensive after 'low-skilled' soldiers sent to war

 

The truth is that There would e no need for regime change if Ukraine was supported with sufficient and effective weapons early on in the war. Ukraine showed by the second week mark that they could stop the Moskhailiy from advancing. Even my cousin who lives in a Baltic country insisted that the war would be over in 3 days. But she was married to a Moskhail until he decided to die.

 

Ukraine war: Russian troops forced out of eastern town Lyman

 

I did naZi that coming

 

I am still hoping for fire fights to break out between groups of Russian groups.

 

Hm. I'd sooner expect some heated disagreements with commanding officers, such as we have already heard about, but I guess you never know.

 

Well at least they were forced out and the Ukies captured an important supply transfer point. A high number of Russian dead and/or captured would have but frosting on the tort.

 

Russian Offensive Campaign ...


Key Takeaways

• Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the illegal Russian annexation of four Ukrainian territories on September 30 without clearly defining the borders of those claimed territories.
• Putin announced that Russia’s usual autumn conscription cycle will start a month late on November 1, likely because Russia’s partial mobilization of Russian men is taxing the bureaucracy of the Russian military commissariats that would usually oversee the semi-annual conscription cycle.
• Russian officials could re-mobilize last year’s conscripts when their terms expire on October 1.
• Ukrainian forces will likely capture or encircle Lyman within the next 72 hours.
• Ukrainian military officials maintained operational silence regarding Ukrainian ground maneuvers in Kherson Oblast but stated that Ukrainian forces continued to force Russian troops into defending their positions.
• Russian troops continued ground assaults in Donetsk Oblast.
• Russian authorities continued efforts to coerce Russian participation in mobilization efforts, but will likely struggle to coerce participation as Russians continue to flee Russia for border states who welcome them.
• Russian officials are accepting bribes and engaging in other preferential treatment to prevent or ease the economic burden of mobilization on the wealthy.
• Russian authorities are continuing to deploy mobilized personnel to Ukraine without adequate training or equipment, and personnel are unlikely to be able to afford to provide their own supplies.
• Russian forces conducted a missile strike on a Ukrainian humanitarian convoy and attempted to blame the Ukrainian government. . . .

Ukrainian forces will likely capture or encircle Lyman within the next 72 hours. Russian forces continued to withdraw from positions around Lyman on September 30 as Ukrainian forces continued to envelop Russian troops in the area.[8] The Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) officials and Russian war correspondents stated that Russian forces still control Lyman but have withdrawn from their positions in Drobysheve (around 6km northwest of Lyman) and Yampil (about 13km southeast of Lyman).[9] Russian sources claimed that Russian forces still control one road from Lyman to Torske, while Ukrainian forces have cut off the Drobysheve-Torske road in the Stavky area.[10] Russian sources also noted the increasing activity of Ukrainian reconnaissance and sabotage groups on the Svatove-Torske highway northeast of Lyman after reportedly crossing the Zherebets River.[11] Geolocated footage also showed Ukrainian artillery striking withdrawing Russian forces near Torske.[12] Some Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces have crossed the Siverskyi Donets River in Dronivka and are now operating in the forests south of Kreminna.[13] Russian sources uniformly noted that Ukrainian artillery continues to interdict Russian forces’ single remaining egress route on the Kreminna-Torske road.[14] . . .

Ukrainian military officials maintained their operational silence regarding the progress of the Ukrainian counteroffensive in southern Ukraine on September 30. Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command reported that Ukrainian forces are continuing to force Russian troops to defend their positions. The Ukrainian General Staff added that Russian forces are continuing to evict civilians in Kherson City to quarter additional Russian reinforcements.[23] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command noted that Russian forces are attempting to restore the operations of the Antonivsky Bridge and are bringing additional construction materials and repair equipment to the bridge.[24] . . .

 

Balls in Russia's court.

 

Yes it would e great if there was open disagreement vertically up and down the chain of command and horizontally across. The Russian army does not really have a developed non com structure but if even what they have in terms of sergeants it will be great if open disrespect by enlisted for officers breaks out and then the officers over react and use the Russian version or court Marshall.
That would break the chain of command at the bottom and collapse occurs.