simple question about the Biden weed pardon

As far as I know, Trump (nor any other president for that matter) ever used a pardon to invalidate a constitutionally protected law made by congress.

How about this, if Trump had, for example, pardoned anyone convicted of tax evasion, would you support it? Would you say it was constitutional?

 

It's exactly what you're saying. Own it

 

What is the limit of possession? Ounces, pounds, tons? If a prosecutor could only pin a dealer with possession, but not sale, does you argument still hold? Is there a limit on your willingness to overlook this criminal behavior?

 

I am not. I am saying that he is trying to invalidate the federal law by using his executive power to do so. I know, details, but at some point, you have to stop lying about it... wait till Biden has to pardon his son...

 

So regarding the above...is he pardoning ONLY those that I put in red?

 

Since all presidents enjoy the power to pardon ANYONE for ANY REASON, Every pardon every president has ever made has been constitutional. Deal with it.

ANY reason includes any possible reason you can think of.

 

You’re claiming it’s illegal and unconstitutional…so yes you are. No law is being invalidated. The pardons are legal.

 

Source, for what I assume to be your bogus, or at least highly exaggerated, claim?

 

It’s stunning how many don’t know the constitution, yet act as if they have an understanding. Nothing worse than someone ignorant about a topic claiming to be an expert. Oy.

 

Wishful thinking, really. That’s all they have. If your favorite source of news tells you that xyz politician is evil, and everything they do is illegal, you have to run with it, no matter how silly it sounds to non partisans, and, partisans from the other team.

 

Made even worse by the fact that they are posting in a political forum.

 

Since you clearly know how to use the internet, I would suggest that as a better place to look for a factual answer, than among the PF membership. However, the important thing, you seem to not be interested in, in lieu of the immediate effect, is that Biden is finally beginning this process, at the federal level. Undoing the War On Drugs is nothing that could be accomplished in one fell swoop. The eventual repercussions of a change in the federal stance, will have a cascading effect on those states, which are not already ahead of the Fed, on this. Remember, all drug laws had previously been found to be unconstitutional, by the Supreme Court, until Nixon began his arbitrary "scheduling" of "controlled substances." This could, conceivably, lead to pot being ultimately made legal, nationally. But that is still some time down the line, in the process. Still, Biden has started the wheels rolling, with his commission looking into this, which is an even bigger deal than the pardons.

 

I am certainly know legal expert.
But Biden can only pardoned federally prosecuted people. Not State prosecuted people.

 

My simple question was already answered. Thanks all who participated.

Sorry, Darth does not know how to use the internet. This is his admin assistant. So, like my boss said, is he ONLY releasing these people or does it go further down the list of higher offenses???
Possession
Any amount (first offense) misdemeanor 1 year $ 1,000
Any amount (second offense) misdemeanor 15 days* - 2 years $ 2,500
Any amount (subsequent offense) misdemeanor or felony 90 days* - 3 years $ 5,000
* Mandatory minimum sentence

 

Nope, completely legal here in Colorado

No you're not I'm sure you're setting this up as a slam President Biden thread.

 

Can you back up your claim?

Here is something that goes against your claim.

...
President Biden on Thursday issued one of the largest mass pardons in US history to roughly 6,500 people convicted in federal court of simple marijuana possession, as well as thousands more charged locally in DC.

Biden also ordered a federal review of pot’s Schedule I status that lumps it together with such drugs as heroin and LSD, which could begin the process toward federal legalization.
https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden...l-convictions-of-simple-marijuana-possession/

 

He can probably just think about it.

 

Why don't you fetch that info for your boss, the same way you accessed the info, now posted in red, above my words?

 

No setup. But thanks for trying to think for me. Its cool, i'm not a lefty. I don't need others to think for me.
The sole intention was for selfish reasons
I want to know if I can do a road trip with a particular substance in my car and not be able to get in any trouble.
OTHERS made it about politics because they just can't help themselves

 

Considering the motives of your previous posts you have no complaints coming. I don't use the **** so, I wouldn't know how to advise you, but it's a long way from NJ to CO.

 

Kind of, but not really. It’s illegal for a state to make a law that goes against federal law. That said, everyone knows the war on drugs has been an epic failure. States started taking it into their own hands, daring the fed to go after the population of an entire state for violating federal law.

It’s almost over. Biden is just taking the next step in what has been a painful and daunting process of allowing citizens to have access to something nicknamed weed, because it literally grows like weeds.

 

"No-one is currently in federal prison solely for possession of marijuana. Most convictions occur at state level."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63166964

 

Does your link indicate how many people are currently in federal prison for simple possession?

"No-one is currently in federal prison solely for possession of marijuana. Most convictions occur at state level."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63166964

 

Did you read my post you responded to. It says it in the 1st sentence.
And it is also in the linked story. 6500.

And that story I linked also stated the majority in prison for possession are done by the states. Which will not be affected by Biden's pardon.

And these are the 1st 2 sentences in your very own link.
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President Joe Biden has pardoned all Americans who have been convicted at the national level of possessing small amounts of marijuana.

Officials estimate about 6,500 people with federal convictions for simple possession of marijuana will benefit.


...

 

No one is currently in federal prison for simple possession. <-- this is my assertion, and belief. Nothing you have posted refutes that.

There may, however, be some benefit to those who had previously been convicted, though. For instance, if a pardon expunges their record, that would clearly be beneficial for them, and a good thing. I will humbly concede that point.

I was ready to pat Biden on the back when I first heard of this, but once I learned that no one is actually in federal prison for simple possession, I was disappointed. I truly thought he had finally done something pretty big that I could get behind. I will take the smaller victory of expungement, and hope that maybe something good will come of the DHS review of the scheduling, but I doubt it will. The pharmaceutical lobby, and the DEA bureaucracy are too powerful to allow marijuana to be federally de-scheduled and decriminalized.