The mind-blowing evil of slicing off young girls’ breasts.

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  1. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    Wow really?

    You two are fine with a five year old boy deciding he wants to be a girl, and you are telling me that is not society's business, and only between that kid and his/her parents?

    And yet that same kid shouldn't be allowed to have sex, smoke, drink or vote for at least another decade? How do you square this?
     
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    Recreational poison does not compare to one’s mental and physical well being.
     
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    One at a time.

    I think some people are mature enough to vote by age 11, and some, at 60, don’t have the sense to care for a houseplant. We draw arbitrary lines based on means. It’s not perfect.

    Nobody NEEDS to drink or smoke. These choices should be between child and parents. Most of the world’s children start drinking at a very young age. Some cultures put hot sauce in the milk to train their children’s palettes. Americans are pretty hung up on some very nosy busybody issues. The entire country is filled with them.

    I know trans people. They wish they had the advantage of harmless hormone blockers to save them the time and trauma of painful surgery later. I bow to their knowledge and expertise.
     
  4. Jolly Penguin

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    When I was 5 I wanted to be a dog. I slept in the dogs bed and ate from the dogs bowl. Should I have had some sort of operation to make the transition? I ask because at the time I totally would have been interested. Instead my parents played along with it until I grew out of it.

    Kids go through phases as they find their identities. I also once wanted to be a pirate. Arr.

    Kids at five don't even really know for sure what it means to be a boy or a girl, especially in today's society in which even adults are especially timid to define genders. And yet you would be A ok with chopping off a 5 year old kids' penis? You wouldn't want to wait until the kid is at least 10 to see if he grows out of wanting that?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Any other deep questions? Ponderous. Truly.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you just made his point.
     
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    I would like to know what the actual difference is please. A reduction mammoplasty - particularly in women with macromastia may well lead to inability to breast feed. What I want to know is “What is the actual difference between breast reduction and “top surgery” done for gender dysphoria

    Just judging by responses on this thread many are having visions of horror films like “Saw”
     
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    Where is that being done - I mean outside of right wing horror fantasies
     
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    (((((hugs)))))

    For the bad days - take as many as required until feeling better
     
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    Yes it does - would you prefer these inconvenient children to take that route?
     
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    Yes it does - would you prefer these inconvenient children to take that route?
    I am not the one using hyperbole
     
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    This isn't freedom, this is harming kids - both physically and psychologically.

    And it does have a diagnosis, dysphoria.

    As for the parents, we as a society take children away from their parents for a litany of reasons that fall under physical and psychological abuse.

    Just because this form of abuse is backed by money and political power, it does not mean the citizenry should cower from the abusers.

    How do you think Jeffrey Epstein was able to remain free to molester and rape children?? He was protected for decades by his fellow pedophiles in politics, law enforcement, and government.

    They still won't release the names of the men and women involved in his pedophile network.
     
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    Idiots come in all persuasions.
    I am opposed to allowing minors to do anything to alter their bodies. As adults, they are free to be as bizarre as they want, but we have multiple laws restricting minors from activities that adults do, and this sort of thing needs to be one of them.
     
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    However there are circumstances which prove an exception - like those I quoted earlier where the severely mentally disabled children may have great difficulty with bodily changes
     
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    That's not a very good example, since most of those children are too mentally disabled to make any sort of decision like that. Unless you think it's okay to convince a child who has the mind of a 3-year-old that they should be neutered and prevented from developing into any gender.
     
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    As I said they are exceptions and this is why the question is far more fraufpght than a simple yes/no answer

    .How about my previous case, and it was a real case, where the girl became uncontrollably hysterical when she had her periods - screaming “blood ,blood, blood. So the sweet little couple who decided they were in love (very childlike but past puberty) and yes they had sex. Turned out that the reason for their mental disability was an abnormality in the brain as it developed so the foetus ended up with what was an “inside out” brain (sort of) and was terminal. Life is not neat it is complex.

    what is really blowing my mind is that the SAME people who are fine with forcing a 10 year old to carry a rapists baby to term have issues with that same child, with support of parents wanting to gender transition (and no no child as young as 10 has been forced into gender reassignments
     
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    The difference is adults capable of consent and children not. Same reason we don't allow kids to consent to sex with adults....
     
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    It's a hypothetical. I want to know how far you would be ok with children "consenting" to the mutilation of their bodies.

    Are you ok with the removal of clitoris? Penis? Many here have said breast surgery is ok. How far do you take this? Some here already said yes to chopping off penises. You say no?
     
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    No. I would not. Would you? And more relevantly, would the person whose post I just paralleled when I wrote what you quoted?
     
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    "Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9)."

    "Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/
     
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    For the righties it's OK to force a 12 year old ( or any woman) to damage her body by FORCING her to gestate....they just hate the thought that women can decide things for themselves
     
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    I never thought I'd see a time when millions of people support permanently mutilating children's bodies and attempting to defend it. This is the age we now live in.
     
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    Yes.

    Can't get a body piercing or tattoo, but, you can get your breasts cut off on a youthful whim.75% or more of these young people grow out of it, but unfortunately, while in the wild surges of puberty, there are evil people that will destroy them for their own purposes.

    I applaud the State Legislatures that are stepping up and protecting young people from this predation.

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    I will freely admit that there are people who are truly transsexual, but it's not nearly as common as the activists claim that it is. It is certainly inappropriate for companies like American Girl to be publishing books for young children that are in the advocating the radical activist point of view. It's a matter for parents and medical professionals to address, not some children's book fiction writer with an agenda.
     
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