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Gun Control needs to be instituted

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Lucky1knows, Jan 24, 2023.

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the leadership of the NRA has some bums,. I have said that for years, but the NRA's positions on gun issues is not built on the seething lie that the anti gun movement is built on. The NRA doesnt have to hide its motivations or its agenda. The anti gun movement does
     
    Turtledude, Jan 24, 2023
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    Errr - we ARE talking about the same NRA aren’t we?
    https://vpc.org/investigating-the-gun-lobby/blood-money/

    Follow the money
     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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  3. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    Of course...the official numbers from Mexico are, at best, suspect.

    CCW permit holders are the most law-abiding people in the country. Aside from traffic tickets, they commit fewer crimes than POLICE OFFICERS.

    F-troop has a long history of rewriting laws by fiat.
     
    Jarlaxle, Jan 25, 2023
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  4. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    Compared to 30 years ago, gun ownership is WAY up. WITHOUT looking it up, what do you think are the violent crime rates in 1993 and 2022?
     
    Jarlaxle, Jan 25, 2023
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  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    The fact you are starting with a vetted examined group should mean that you do have a very low rate of criminal activity, however it does not prevent them from committing gun crime

    https://concealedcarrykillers.org/
     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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  6. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Numbers of guns is not correlative with numbers of gun owners plus there are other factors besides gun ownership which can impact on crime rates
     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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  7. SiNNiK

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    Hilarious.
     
    SiNNiK, Jan 25, 2023
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  8. Jarlaxle

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    I'm sorry, I wasn't asking you.
     
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  9. Bowerbird

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    Feel free to prove me wrong
     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Tough! I answered anyway
     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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    Wow. These ridiculous, Draconian, tyrannical blue state gun laws make me so happy I retired to Texas.

    TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!
     
    AARguy, Jan 25, 2023
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    And the freedom to die

    Did you know that America is the only place in the industrialised nations where children have to do “active shooter” drills?

     
    Bowerbird, Jan 25, 2023
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    Buri, Jan 25, 2023
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  14. Lucky1knows

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    That is it, more guns = more crime.
     
    Lucky1knows, Jan 25, 2023
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    I am not surprised you do not have an answer to the question.
    As you know, you cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship - the cause and effect - between more guns and more gun deaths
    All you can offer is the claim that correlation proves causation, which you know is not true.
    Thus, your statement is false, and you knew it was false when you made it.
     
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    Your research has been fully addressed, over and over
    Correlation does not prove causation.
     
    TOG 6, Jan 25, 2023
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    You cannot demonstrate your claimed necessary relationship between an increase in the number of guns and an increase in the number of gun-related crime.
     
    TOG 6, Jan 25, 2023
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    Your attempt to change the subject away from a point you cannot support is a concession of that point.
     
    TOG 6, Jan 25, 2023
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    You just confirmed my earlier comment.
     
    gamma875, Jan 25, 2023
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    I never called anyone a moron. Learn to read.
     
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    There is no evidence of that any more than more forks means more fat people. Do the science.
     
    Buri, Jan 25, 2023
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    Lucky1knows Well-Known Member

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    You continue to make assertions without any supporting data. That kind of a response usually suggest a running-away-from-facts person. One that has nothing to dispute the facts but wants to not make any concessions to the data given.

    It is a sad sight.
     
    Lucky1knows, Jan 25, 2023
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  23. Lucky1knows

    Lucky1knows Well-Known Member

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    Yes I did and a little while ago I produced even more data:
    You have a problem with data and facts?
     
    Lucky1knows, Jan 25, 2023
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    Your statement is false, and you knew it was false when you made it.
     
    TOG 6, Jan 25, 2023
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    Yes. You argued correlation proves causation.
    Hint: It does not.
     
    TOG 6, Jan 25, 2023
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