‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

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  1. Death

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    Anyone can go to the John Hopkins death rates. There is nothing obvious about them:

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

    What they show is 4 billion people have been vaccinated and there have as been a coincidental death rate of 1,111,485.

    If one wants to use a simplistic unscientific term to infer from these two numbers what is obvious, the only thing obvious is the death rate is far smaller than the rate of people vaccinated, so much smaller as to raise the question how does anyone from those numbers alone without looking at actual cause of each death come to the conclusion Covid 19 vaccine kills too many people to make it a wise decision to take as a prophylactic measure to managing Covid 19?
     
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    It's quite pointless talking to you about this stuff except to use your posts as an opportunity to present information the vaccines.

    You seem incapable of assimilating the facts from Canada...

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    The unvaccinated die at a much higher rate.
     
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    Bowerbird I thank for doing all the heavy lifting and responses to the idiocy and false info but I have to back him and Langley and others up and counter yet again the sheer bullshit and misleading info.

    Navy advanced the false statement that the Covid 19 vaccine alters DNA. Of course it does not and when he was asked to provide his evidence he responded with childish remarks because he has no proof. Its a blatant example of how Covid 19 conspiracy spreaders come on this and other threads and make falkse statements.

    All anyone can do when people make stupid and dangerous false statements is counter them with info to show how stupid they are and no matter how many times these stupid statements are repeated to keep countering them:

    https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/c...e-coronavirus-can-mess-our-dna-far-convincing

    https://www.unicef.org/montenegro/en/stories/covid-19-vaccine-does-not-change-human-dna

    https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/...is-it-true-can-covid-19-vaccines-alter-my-dna

    https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/can-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-alter-person’s-dna-0

    https://www.manitobavaccine.ca/answers/do-mrna-vaccines-change-your-dna/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/steven...-tiny-bit-thats-a-good-thing/?sh=1cb100892691
     
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    I've read actual studies about excess deaths. I provided you with the YouTube video because it's a good starting point.

    So far, from what I've seen, the people who might have second thoughts about the vaccine should be younger, healthy types. Even so, they're probably better off getting vaccinated because there's some evidence the vaccines are protective against long covid.
     
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    In a nut shell, the following article explains why the claim that death rates rose from taking the vaccine is falseand directly shows that what AFM has stated and how he has tried to use the article he did DOES NOT and NEVER proved his assertions and in fact his inferences are not obvious but in fact absolutely false and it further backs up what Bowerbird and Langley stated.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9015592/
     
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    Yes, the young are at greater risk from the “vaccines” than Covid. That data is presented in the book. If don’t believe this to be true and you are interested you will read the book.
     
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    There is no age group breakdown of the data.
     
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    Why do excess deaths for the younger age groups increase after vaccination?
     
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    There are no “dots to connect” :roll: Yes there are some shithouse players in places like Davos but 90% is driven by money and there is no money in killing off customers
     
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    Do they?

    Look at sites OTHER than known Covid misinformation sites, most of which had a financial interest in selling “alternative” treatments
     
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    But he paid for the writing and the publication. All of these claims about Gates and Soros being “De eeeeebil killers of children” and in fact Kennedy with his vaccine denial has probably killed more children than all the players at Davos.

    See Kennedy does not confine himself to denying COVID 19 vaccines - he wants all vaccines stopped
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
     
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    There are plenty of them, a gave you one before. It was what Bill Gates said in his TEDx talk, but you'd prefer to dismiss it, that there are no dots to connect for you. Follow the money they say, well, Bill Gates is the money tree.
     
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    The Deceptive Campaign for Bivalent Covid Boosters
    Studies show they fail to live up to their promise, but vaccine makers and experts keep pushing them.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-de...s-moderna-pfizer-wuhan-imprinting-11674400955

    Oh no! WSJ, an MSM entity has come up with this article. Heaven forbid.


     
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    That argument is presented in great detail in the book I gave referenced and posted quotes from. On September 8 of 2022 the UK stopped offering covid vaccines to children under 12. One month later the Danish government stopped mass covid vaccination for everyone under 50.
     
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    No, none at all. That's if you don't look.

    1250+ COVID Vaccine Publications and Case Reports

     
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    The quotes and data presented in the book indicate a strong correlation between increased excess deaths and vaccination. Nothing more or less. But definitely information to be considered and pursued further.

    I am reporting this information. I am not making it up.
     
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    No it does not prove it assumes. You do not understand the difference between a correlation and an assumption. In fact what you quoted provides no evidence the increase of deaths reported was caused by Covid 19 vaccine. It assumes when the increase of reports of death were obtained, that increase had to be from the Covid 19 vaccine and not simply from an increase in reported deaths that otherwise would not be reported.

    Stop falsely interchanging an increase with reported deaths as being the same as proven causes of death from the vaccine. It was never proven in the book and it has never been proven by anyone. In fact the exact opposite has been proven, i.e., the more people take the vaccine, the death rate from Covid 19 has gone down. This is why your misrepresentation is so repulsive. You do it repeatedly knowing the two things you interchange are not one and the same and you pass off making an assumption as a correlation.

    For there to be a correlation you would need evidence the rate of deaths that increased was directly connected to taking the Covid 19 vaccine. You have no evidence and neither did the book. You make an assumption the deaths increased from the vaccine with no connection but simply assuming since more deaths were reported it had to be from the vaccine.
     
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    You don’t understand what a correlation is.

    I am making no assumptions but am merely reporting on the data and opinions presented in the book I have been sourcing.
     
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    An opinion is not a correlation. An assumption is not a correlation. The data in the book you provide provides NO link or connection between the increase in death rates being caused by the Covid 19 vaccine,

    Stop making false statements. An assumption or inference you make and you think the book makes when it states its "opinion" are not correlations. They are assumptions.

    The definition of correlation is a direct connection between two variables through cause and effect.

    This is precisely why when using data (statistics) if one claims a correlation as a a statistical measure (expressed as a number) that describes the size and direction of a relationship between two or more variables thata alleged orrelation between variables does not automatically mean that the change in one variable is the cause of the change in the values of the other variable until such time as you prove the link, i.e., cause and effect.

    Nothing in what your book or you provide establishes a link between the increase of death rates and the Covid 19 vaccines other than that the two coexist.

    Until there is proof of the actual cause of death the increase in deaths comes from the increase in reported deaths not the vaccine.

    It is not until the increased deaths reported can be shown to have been caused by the vaccine, that the correlation then can be said to exist between the increased deaths and taking the vaccine and not simply in the increase in reporting deaths.

    You can repeat the lie over and over and misrepresent what it says but I am here to expose what you are doing.

    What you are doing is dangerous. What we now know is people will die from Covid 19 and there is an increase in deaths in adults and children from being exposed to Covid 19 and when they take the vaccine those death rates go down the very opposite of what you say.

    There are proven correlations that the rate of deaths from Covid 19 GOES DOWN when you take the vaccine but the rates of death from Covid 19 go up when you do not take the vaccine.

    AFM put up or shut up. Provide one study that shows a direct link between an increase in deaths as a result of complications from taking Covid 19 vaccine.

    For once be honest and provide one study that links cause of death to Covid 19 vaccines.
     
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    There is a strong correlation. Have you read the book and its references? What I am doing is reporting on the information documented in the book which is in turn reporting on what other reliable sources have documented. If you disagree then read the book and provide arguments and data which contradict the arguments and data presented in the book by the Danish Government, British Goverment, Society of Actuaries, various insurance companies, ...
     

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