‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    This is just the start. 2021, US ––– 400,000 adverse events. https://noqreport.com/2021/07/02/as...aches-400000-the-truth-must-be-spread-widely/

    VAERS Summary for COVID-19 Vaccines through 01/07/2022
    https://vaersanalysis.info/2022/01/14/vaers-summary-for-covid-19-vaccines-through-01-07-2022/

    An FOI request
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/FOI-2289-relevant-documents_Redacted.pdf
     
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    Well, wake up, now. It has been happening while you were sleeping.
    Do you think that our heavy industries just up and left our shores because it was an uncompetitive market, that our locally built cars, Holden, Ford, Toyota just shrivelled up and died because nobody wanted big cars, then wtf is a lot of Aussies driving now that's new. Look up the 'Lima Agreement' every PM has been signing off on it since 1975 so that no country can be self-sufficient after you do read it, why do you think it has been kept a secret, that no referendum is ever held? Because it's a sh!t deal and no one would have agreed to any part of it. It was to be on that 30% of our industries (manufacturing mainly) goes offshore, yet it has gone to 90%.
    What bullshit do you think is causing our energy crisis here and globally and it ain't the war in Ukraine with Russia, that's just the line fed to those who are too complacent to think for themselves.
    And what about the inflation that has now got a grip on us and globally, what bullshit do you want to blame that on? It's all been orchestrated to happen.
    Fuel prices are part of that inflation/energy crisis and food in some places, it's all been planned, it's not a case of sh!t just happens, it happens because it was designed to happen. Watch out for the end of Feb this year. It's tipped to be another GFC, much bigger than 2008. Coincidence, hardly. Then you have Bill Gates looking after population control and buying massive amounts of prime US farmland. So you think you have your finger on the pulse hey, this is just a smidge of what they have planned for and is yet to come for us all.
     
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    You are in a coma, aren't you? I gave you a video to watch with BG, did you watch it? No.
    And all the peer-reviewed medical papers that I and others have provided on this thread and others
    He talks about reducing the world's population through the use of "good vaccines", he has a foundation that specialises in funding & administering pharmaceuticals. He's on India's hit list of murder charges for killing circa 45,000 of his sh!t polio vaccine a few years back.
    Then I also provided a short video of him stating in an interview, that the vaccines "aren't blocking, they're not broad and don't last long. So what do they do, they mess people up or kill them?




    'wakey, wakey, hands off snakey'.
     
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    I thought you worked with complicated, are you gaslighting me again?

    It is simple, you just don't want to know it.

    Covering their asses.
     
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    You asked for proof, not really being specific. Why carry on about it?
    Oh that's right, now that you've been educated by the few, that the covid injections are not entirely safe and effective, you play the "you treat it as it's something new card'. It was to you not that long ago.
     
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    And I know deep down inside you loooooovvvvvvvvvvvvve mine.o_O
     
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    Not in detail using multiple sources from multiple countries that Dowd documents. The strong correlation is clearly there which needs to be reported and investigated. Where are the investigative reporters.
     
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    This is from Canada since you don't trust the VAERS and feel compelled to use phony reports.

    https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/
     
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    Lemme guess-—you haven't given two seconds of thought to the Canadian data.
     
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    The Canadian data is incomplete. Have you given any thought to Dowd’s reporting on the multiple sources from multiple countries including insurance companies and actuaries?
     
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    Why would a medical professional "loooooovvvvvvvvvvvvve" the propaganda you post?
     
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    How would you know?
     
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    The video, his foundation and what it has done in India as the testing ground, his heavy investment and involvement in his pseudoscience injections. They are your dots to connect.

    And here is Klaus Schwab banging on about how WEF/he has penetrated most governments.



    What relevance do they have with each other? Make the population smaller(Gates) so they're easier to control (Klaus/WEF). Think of what is going on in China, but on a global scale, I mean everything in China.
     
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    ~ There is speculation that is exactly what the Chinese government is currently doing to its' own population with yet another "Covid-19 rebound " virus ... :-|

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    No need to, because it's typical overexaggerated government garbage, to make YOU feel all fuzzy and warm.
     
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    How would you? Do you blindly trust your government, that being Trudeau, a WEF Global Youth Leader graduate?
     
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    AFM two things. 1-I am debating you very intensely because I believe you are misrepresenting info in a dangerous and intellectually dishonest way; 2-I defend your right to have your opinions and when I say intellectually dishonest and challenge you on that I do NOT EVER think you do so to intentionally hurt people I want to make that clear but I do think you know damn well there is no direct evidence between death from the Covid 19 vaccine and the death rates you claim have risen. Stop saying the book told you. I have like you examined that book. It provides no connection between the cause of deaths and the vaccine, NONE. All it has done is assume because the reporting of deaths increased the increase had to be from taking the vaccine. No it did not. It increased because anyone with Covid 19 who dies, is reported now, they never were before. It doesn't mean they died because of the vaccine. It simply means there death is now reported.

    I have explained that distinction to you several times as have others and no neither you or anyone has linked increased deaths due to the vaccine. They do not exist and that is why all you have is a book making an assumption with no evidence of cause of death because to be blunt the actual statistics show people who take the vaccine are not only less likely to die from it or get sick from it, but to have it for as lengthy a period. The last two facts are crucial. If the period of having Covid 19 goes down, the period tgo spread it to someone goes down. If the ability to spread it goes down, the less likely someone will catch it and die from it because they do not have the choice to take the vaccine due to pre-existing medical conditions that prevent them from taking it. Its those people we want to protect and if taking a vaccine helps protect them of course I will do it.

    Next if you get sick from a virus that you could have prevented you from using a hospital why not? That hospital service you take up that could have been prevented is re-routed from someone else who desperately also needed that service for a condition they had no way of preventing like you.

    This is a matter of making choices that thinks of others not just yourself.

    Next why some of us challenge you is because children who do NOT take the vaccine are dying from Covid 19. No they are not dying from taking the vaccine.

    You are not being honest with the statistics as to actual death rates caused by Covid 19 and how the vaccine has made those rates go down and also how the adverse effects of the vaccine are indeed being tracked and there is NO evidence the complications they cause are killing people let alone at a rate that over-rides the importance of using the vaccine to prevent people from dying of Covid 19.

    Your entire position is based on conspiracies that would have people believe not just the pharmaceutical industry but governments and physicians around the world, dedicated nurses, doctors, health care providers want to kill you.

    I would strongly suggest your fear of this virus and medicine and vaccines comes from other issues as to how you deal with people you feel are in authority and you do not agree with and not the virus itself.

    Why do I say all this. I grew up in Montreal. My mother was a pediatric neurologist. I baby sit her patients. I saw first hand what happened to children whose parents refused to give them the polio vaccine or because they did not trust doctors send them to chiropractors who would permanently paralyze them violently manipulating their spine or neck or breaking bones.

    I have worked as a family mediator/lawyer and seen children die of illnesses painfully and slowly because their parents refused treatment for them that could have prevented this.

    My views are not based on forcing you to do anything but I will challenge each and every false statement as I have.
     
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    Dowd's info was debunked. Why are you still quoting it?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-excess-mortality-idUSL2N2VS1BI

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...k-death-contrary-claim-financier-edward-dowd/

    Next explain why the Canadian data is "incomplete". How can any study on death rates regarding Covid 19 be complete when its an ongoing phenomena?

    Please get serious. The more you respond the less sense you are making. Quoting debunked information will not make it magically gain its credibility back.

    No the info you do not want to accept will not vanish because you ignore it.
     
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    There have been no false statements. I have posted excerpts of a fact based book. The data is clear. There are strong correlations between excess deaths in age groups at very low risk to covid and vaccinations.
     
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    This debunks nothing. Review what I have posted and I would recommend reading the book. The information is from many reputable sources and countries.

    Reuters is misrepresenting the data and discussions presented in the book. In fact they most likely have not bothered to read the book but in actuality are misrepresenting a video of Mr. Dowd discussing his (and others) fact based opinions.
     
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    Ah, now you know about Canada.

    Have you ever been to Canada? What do you know of how they handled covid? Why do they have a much lower covid death rate than ours?
     
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    What is the death rate from vaccinations for, say, people in their 20s? 30s?
     
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    What is the survivability rate from Covid from those age groups?
     
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    You really should look at the validity of your source material. Just because it is on the internet does not make it either real or true

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/noq-report/


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    An FOI request
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/FOI-2289-relevant-documents_Redacted.pdf
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    Who are these “Doctors4covidethics?” I am ALWAYS suspicious about websites like this who do not list the main authors because 9/10 it is a scam

    However with some digging I found at least some of this rubbish traced back to THIS guy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi
     
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