Why would China use a spy balloon when it has satellites?

In my post to which you responded, I was joking.

 

My facts will never penetrate your bubble. It's been tried and tried and tried by far better then I ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

And that's good enough! And believe me Brother, those are my exact feeling too

 

So much for your "I do not buy the debris story."

 

Here's what I wonder;
1. How did they choose who got to shoot it down?
2. Will they let the pilot paint the kill on the side of his/her plane?

 

I stayed based on what I read. There was a picture that showed debris and what they show was parts of the chute. That is not the type of debris I am concerned with. That would spread over a lot of real estate due to it’s lower weight.

 

They were worried from the start about the area of the debris. And you were not buying it, with nothing to back it up. An easy search shows a plane covers a massive area when shot down. So you know, so much for your ignorance.

 

The parts of airplanes especially civilian airliners that go down especially over oceans you will find the light materials spread out. Seat cushions, passenger luggage, anything light or floatable will get moved by tides and currents. Engines will tend to sink fairly close to the impact site.
The material such as the balloon itself will clot and spread way farther than bulky items such as batteries, cameras , heavy electronic pieces.

You have not educated yourself about what occurs in a crash site in water but you went off running your mouth at me and accusing me of ignorance. Do you have a mirror in your house? If you do look into it.

 

Glad you agree.

 

That balloon invaded American airspace and floater thousands of miles over uninhabited areas. There’s no excuse for this.

 

https://www.defensenews.com/congres...Toverlay=de88742f-46f7-4f2c-819d-3b36a47d6a7e

 

Then they got pictures of jackrabbits and coyotes, BFD!

 

Absolutely ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

They also hovered over nuclear facilities and remote military installations for hours.

 

... And learned nothing, because it wasn't transmitting and protocols were followed to guard against any potential intelligence gathering around sensitive facilities anyway.

1 hr 56 min ago
Pentagon official lays out timeline of US awareness of suspected Chinese surveillance balloon

From CNN's Haley Britzky

Waiting to shoot the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon down until it was over water allowed officials to observe the balloon’s capabilities, avoid civilian casualties, and improved the US’ ability to recover the balloon itself, a Department of Defense official told lawmakers Thursday.

“The military recommended taking the balloon down over water. Waiting to do so had three benefits,” Melissa Dalton, assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense and hemispheric affairs, told the Senate Appropriations Committee. “First it gave us additional time to observe the balloon, again, assessing the PRCs capabilities and tradecraft. Simultaneously, we protected against intelligence collection, which again was relatively straightforward since we knew where the balloon was. Second, this allowed us to refine options and decrease the risk of debris causing harm to civilians.
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“Please bear in mind, the balloon itself was 200 feet tall with a jetliner size payload,” Dalton said. “We consulted with NASA, who analyzed and assessed the potential debris field that the balloon would create based on trajectory, weather, and the estimated payload. And third, waiting to shoot the balloon down over water improved our prospects at recovery, which are ongoing.”

Dalton said the balloon first entered the US Air Defense Identification Zone over Alaska on Jan. 28, before flying over Canada. US officials continued tracking the balloon to learn more about China’s capabilities, she said, before it entered US continental airspace on Jan. 31.
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Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/chinese-spy-balloon-update-02-09-23/index.html

 

19 square miles of debris when a plane got shot down above land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

I got a source, you do not.

And the experts were squared the debris would kill people above land.
So you know, just their opinion, my source vs your puny opinion.

 

Very doubtful it's 1000's of miles. Go source it. People live, work and go on vacation there, like hiking off grid up in Alaska. There is no way to contact lots of them and no way to be sure nobody is there.

 

I don’t care if you have a source or not you are not comparing apples to apples. If an aircraft get shot down with an explosive force a high number of parts will almost always result in a broadly s tiered debris field it not that elongated.Example being Laccerbe ( sp) Scotland.
There was an AF cargo plain that just lost control and went almost straight into the ground resulting in a rather compact debris field. The shape and width of the debris field depends on a lot of factors:

1- angle of craft at moment of impact
2. speed as it approaches impact and speed at point of impact
3- whether or not it was blown up
4 - altitude at time it was blown up
5- topography at point of impact
6- if impact in water the depth of the water is key and tides and currents but I already told you that.

Read up on the Shanks I’ll crash site on 9-11. The Pentagon crash is different since that hit a building. I should not have to tell you about the 9-11 crashes into the Towers co I.
So can you running the mouth and calling or implying that those who you disagree with as being ignorant and do some research on crash sites and crash factors. I am being a nice guy and I gave you some factors above to consider.

 

I think they should have shot unarmed missiles to keep puncturing it for a soft landing… like in Times Square.

 

It's likely they gamed many scenarios out and stuck with the one where they could predict where the balloon would end up, heck a missile harpoon would have been great too but at 66,000 feet, I have no idea if that's a thing or even viable.

 

Satellites follow fixed, predictable flight plants.

 

And balloons are blown around by the wind.

 

This is absolute ignorance. lol
When a plane is shot out of the sky, than there is no "craft" anymore on impact.
There is just a heck of a lot of debris dropping from the sky.
That's how you end up with 19 SQUARE MILES over land.

When a plane loses control, than there is a craft on impact.


The balloon, 3 busses big, was shot = lots of debris from the sky.
Hence 7 miles of debris.

 

Which gives them a randomness that is unpredictable

 

This just Chinese arrogance.
They do not accept Americas legitimacy, China was an organized country way before Christ. They see America as a blip on the Earths civilization history. We are not China.
Their play book has always been “irritate below the threshold of a serious response” to keep wearing your opponent down, Then (maybe) strike by surprise when they are distracted.
Our best weapon is to de couple from China, but we have created this cycle of reversing everything your predecessor did, regardless of whether it was good or bad. This political unreasonableness screams lack of cohesion and it may cost us big down the near road. (Less than 10 years)