Why would China use a spy balloon when it has satellites?

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We had a long discussion about the debris and the spread / people potentially getting hurt. You named it basically BS. Now it has been shot down, and the spread is over an area of 5 miles, you out of nowhere claimed it was due to current/tides/water. I mentioned planes blown out of the sky and up spreading debris a lot more, due to the speed they travel on the ground... And instead of putting your big boy pants on and admit to this, you suddenly change the discussion and claim it's because of recovery. lol

 

There are vast uninhabited areas across the US. There was no valid reason to not bring it down soon after it was discovered.

What happens when debris falls into the ocean? Currents and tides scatter it far away from where it fell into the ocean.

 

Did you show or quote the source?

 

There is no reason they couldn't have taken it down in a more controlled fashion.

 

The debris is scattered for miles across the ocean floor

 

None at all other than indecisiveness

 

Seems point less to put a missile into the payload when hitting the balloon would have left everything in one piece.

 

After this dangerous event, I wonder why they don't eliminate Google Earth?

Cripes a'mighty, the Taliban or Isis could be viewing CONUS from the Google Satellite. Has Google eliminated our National Security?

What about all these photographic drones in the hands of civilians? They could be selling those pictures to China or the Taliban?

 

I'm sorry, I have been around leftist to much is my only defense

 

China has been so emboldened by the Biden administration that they are above using expensive technology on us lesser beings here in the USA. They can spy on us using balloons. Why use the expensive stuff against a country that has already bent the knee to them?

 

Sadly, the left has sent XI a message, "WE LOVE BALLOONS"

 

At 60,000 feet any propellers would have to be relatively huge to be of any use. At least two would also be needed due to the non-aerodynamic design of the balloon. That balloon did not have propellers capable of flying against the wind as the energy required would be humongous. At most, it would be able to rotate on its axis to line up the solar panels while still flying in the direction of the wind and while at the same speed as the wind. It also maybe able to slightly veer in the direction of the wind using some sort of a rudder. To say that it can be guided is a large stretch

 

How is it a good call? The end result is the same as if we would have shot it down over the Aleutians. EXCEPT, by waiting to shoot we allowed the CCP to glean intelligence.

 

You can't create a worldwide, real time video feed with satellites, as they orbit, they are expensive and you would need a lot, and the constant retasking to maintain an uninterrupted feed would be complex.

However, if the world allows you to fly several balloons over the globe, one could in theory maintain comprehensive, more detailed footage of anywhere, anytime, by combining their feeds into one, which, obviously combined with AI would make it a very powerful surveillance tool with many more applications than satellites.

If the CCP can succeed in winning an international law debate over permitting these aircraft to fly, then they can strive for that tool.

 

When you mean several do you mean like several billion? Balloons are quite useless as spying devices because they are so slow. At 60,000 feet altitude their speed is roughly my jogging speed. They need to be practically stationary above where the action will be for all time

 

They can put a satellite in orbit; they can figure out how to make a balloon stationary enough for valuable intelligence or as part of a network I proposed. But before working on any of that, you need to probe the world and see if they will allow the normalization of these flights.

 

Only to you.
Otherwise, no one else gives a rats patooty of your opinion. It's often proven incorrect.

 

No doubt. Facts are not part of your defense.

 

I love this. Average citizens having detailed technical discussions about technology.Its hilarious. I can't wait until uneducated folks or folks with a degree in "Women's Studies" start discussing Thermodynamics... LOL.

 

The balloon flew at the south side of Alaska. People live there. People work there. People travel through it. People who are hard to reach or who are flat out unreachable.

What happens when a flying massive object is shot into pieces high up in the sky? It ends up not falling straight down. In case of the balloon, it caused a 5 mile stretch of debris, and the currents/tides than would spread it even more. Nothing unusual. A plane that got shot down dropped down over an area of 19 sq miles on land. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

 

I'm rather sure it was 5. I found a source its 7
https://nypost.com/2023/02/05/navy-divers-recovering-chinese-balloon-debris/

Do you got something to dispute?

 

I wonder how many of those moaning about Biden not ordering the shoot down as soon as it entered US airspace just waved away Trump Losing/stealing Top Secret documents with the excuse that he could declassify them whenever he wanted to? Nevermind that any TS documents are TS for a reason and this balloon could not get any more information than that available on Google Earth

Why was it shot down? Probably just to make a point that the US won't allow another country to fly into its airspace without authorisation

 

People living and working around the Aleutians are hard to impossible to reach. Do note, Trump let it all happen without a care.

 

You said you had a source so I will try to open your source.Ok good. The Navy said per your article that this recovery will go well, that is good.