Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    They never existed, except as fictional creations of Russian propaganda.
     
  2. ToughTalk

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    The bio labs narrative is flat earth ****.
     
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    Not sure how true this is, but will fire up the pro-putin crowd. Thus, this is up for discussion. US former Marine joins Ukraine for a year then defects to Russia spilling the details of the Ukrainian Nazi's. Should get interesting to see if this is legit.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Joh..._AUoAHoECAMQAg&biw=1088&bih=524&dpr=1.76#ip=1
     
  4. ToughTalk

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    He didn't want to fight for supposid nazi's so he joined the side that is invading and genociding Ukrainians?

    Does he logic?
     
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    He said he was a Communist to begin with, so he was already on that path. The story is, both sides are committing acts of depravity, not just the Russians. I wonder how far Biden will go in support if this is true. Ukraine will have to change regardless.
     
  6. Jack Hays

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    No, Ukraine does not need to change anything. They should just ignore this nut case.
     
  7. Chrizton

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    As long as the US can keep them supplied, artillery will continue to prove itself the king of battle in Ukraine. Hopefully our allies are doing a better job stepping up in case the GOP shuts the government down to help Putin, Inc.
     
  8. Scott

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-18#post-1074064986
    Tell us what your source is.

    Do you mean post #443? You're just trying to divert attention away from where you looked silly in posts #339 and #335. Your credibility took a big hit and you're making light of it. A lot of viewers have seen what you said and they're going to remember it.

    Hey Jack Hays, do you agree with what he said?
     
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  9. Jack Hays

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    No sign of Ukraine bioweapons labs says disarmament chief ...
    https://news.un.org › story › 2022/03


    Mar 18, 2022 — The UN is not aware of any biological weapons programme being conducted in Ukraine, the Organization's disarmament chief told the Security ...
     
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  10. Bill Carson

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    Getting real about ukie land

     
  11. Monash

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    I still think the 'Ukraine is run by 'Gay' NAZI's' allegation has some legs left though. If only because of it's comedy value.
     
  12. Scott

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    How do you know this is true? Different sources say different things.

    Russia claims U.S. running secret bio weapons lab in nation of Georgia
    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...us-running-biological-weapons-lab-in-georgia/

    I don't simply choose the source that says what I'd like to be true.

    Also, do you agree with what Durandel said?
     
  13. Jack Hays

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    No source not under Russian control makes the claim. It's just propaganda.
    The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model
    https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives


    We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of ...

    And I have no idea what post of Durandel you are referring to.
     
  14. Durandal

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    "I don't simply choose the source that says what I'd like to be true."

    Oh, but I think you do.
     
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    Legit? Nazis in ukie land is old news. Here is the interview:

     
  16. Durandal

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    "Banned interview in USA" ... Even the title is a lie, Bill, since nothing is banned here.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6xGro32_axtymJoLZalKEg

    I wonder why this entire channel isn't "banned"? Seems to go against their own claims and against yours and @Scott 's as well.
     
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    It's in this post.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-19#post-1074065259

    The mainstream's* not claiming it and the Russians' claiming it proves nothing. I made this post...
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-about-ukraine.608401/page-13#post-1074060754

    ...and I made it clear that I didn't simply believe what the video said. I just said it fit the pattern. Just choosing the side that says what you want to be true is not going to impress any thinking people. The truth may be something you don't like. I want what I believe to reflect reality.



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    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798[/QUOTE]
     
  19. Jack Hays

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    Sorry. Sometimes I drink too much coffee. Here's what he said.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-18#post-1074064455


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-18#post-1074064616

    Do you agree with him?
     
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    What aggression .. and how does this excuse turning into a NAZI and harming fellow man ?

    This will be worth a good chuckle watching you defend this crucified position .. Whare is Dayton when we need him !
     
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    Holy Eureka Robin !! No wonder Durandal's perspective is so often so loopy - He drinks the Kool-aid without question .. conflating "Kook-aid" with "The Truth"

    Ahoy Maytee .. Welcome to "The Truth" .. Censorship is more of a rule rather than the exception in the Western Media ... in so many ways it is difficult to count. Are you telling us you have been obvlivious to all of the Western censorship in all its various forms such that you can not come up with one example ?

    When did the MSNBC/FOX --- or the Political Pundid Clown Show on the Left reveal to that the Jab doesn't prevent Transmission ? and or that the risk of harm from the Jab is far greater than risk of harm from "Covid" for healthy people with natural immunity ?

    This is going to be a big chuckle for all should one try and defend this crucified position.
     
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    Seems you're myopic, as usual. Why is the channel you linked to not "banned" Bill?
     
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    I never understood the Russian propaganda claims that some how their propaganda was banned. No, it is not, people who enjoy being lied to can seek it out. Distributors just decided RT is a money loser and they make more money replacing that garbage with a station which actually does make money. Russians never seem to understand economics though.
     
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