Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday in Manhattan DA case

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  1. Nemesis

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    Bbbbbbbbbut what about Trump's "due process "?
     
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    Cohen/Costello history.


    'Witness proposed by Trump defense to go before Manhattan grand jury Monday'

    'The development appears aimed at discrediting Trump’s former fixer, Michael Cohen, who is a key prosecution witness'

    "Costello also played a role in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Mueller’s 2019 report describes interactions between Costello and Cohen; according to Mueller, Cohen began speaking with Costello in April 2018, days after Cohen’s office and a hotel room were raided by FBI agents, who seized evidence including material related to the Daniels payment.

    Over emails, Costello told Cohen that he had a “backchannel” to Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. “You are ‘loved’ ... they are in our corner. ... Sleep well tonight[], you have friends in high places,” the Mueller report said.

    Mueller indicated that the messages made Cohen feel like he would continue to have the support of Trump’s White House “if he continued to toe the party line.”

    Bragg has suggested that he was reviewing all aspects of the long-running Trump investigation — which covered the former president’s dealings with banks and lenders, as well as tax practices at the Trump Organization. The grand jury has been focused on the Daniels payment, and Bragg’s team is widely believed to be focused on the possibility that Trump broke state law by falsifying business records to cover up what amounted to a campaign donation."

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    https://archive.is/wtiE6
     
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    Help me RON-DUH,
    Help,help help me RON-DUH

    'Trumpworld Attacks DeSantis Over Not Condemning Looming Trump Indictment'

    “Trump voters are enraged” over Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg attempting to “take out Trump,” a Republican operative familiar with Trump’s 2024 campaign strategy told The Daily Beast.

    Allies of former President Donald Trump are taking increasingly bigger swings at Ron DeSantis as it becomes clearer that the Florida governor could jump into the 2024 presidential campaign.

    As DeSantis remained silent over the weekend on Trump’s looming legal problems, Trumpworld returned to doing what they do best: Hurling even more attacks at the Florida governor. This time around, Trump cronies criticized DeSantis for not denouncing a so-far nonexistent Trump indictment. The uproar on social media left one Trumpworld pundit calling on DeSantis to phone up the National Guard to protect Trump from being extradited to face justice.

    “Your silence on President Trump’s leaked indictment and his potential extradition and arrest by NY prosecutorial communist thugs is deafening,” pro-Trump radio host John Fredericks tweeted. “Trump is a resident of your state. You can no longer hide behind book tours & expensive DC consultants.”

    The right-wing radio host and Steve Bannon ally added: “You have to choose between your Wall Street gangster-bankster big donor hedge fund open border benefactors-or us. Who do you choose to stand with, Ron?”

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...-over-not-condemning-looming-trump-indictment
     
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    Steve Bannon. LOL!
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    They both paid fines, as will be the probable result of Manhattan DA's hush money indictment, a fine.

    Nothing to complain about.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I agree on the point that a Hush Money campaign donation will result in a fine, nothing more. The DOJ isn't likely to incarcerate anyone over such charges.
     
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    I agree that the hush money coverup indictment of Trump should not be prosecuted. My only guess for the indictment is that the statute of limitations for an FEC fine has elapsed, and the Manhattan DA doesn't want to see Trump get away with it, as Hillary and others (Obama, etc) weren't allowed to get away with it.
     
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    And today's Grand Jury witness that Trump sent, is Robert Costello who was Bannon's lawyer in his subpoena case until he wasn't.
     
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    Rudy said. 'it's a violation of due process' - Alan Dershowitz, Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School, says much the same, and goes even further:

    Trump Probe Is 'Prosecutorial Abuse'

    "This is the worst kind of prosecutorial abuse," said Dershowitz. "I hate to make analogies to the Soviet Union, but it's very similar to what the head of the KGB, Joseph Stalin said, 'Show me the man, and I'll find you the crime.'"

    "Bragg has peaked beneath the blindfold" of justice and has decided that since it's Trump in question, "'let's go through all the statutes and all the case books. Let's see if we can pin something on him. Justice [Robert] Jackson, a former attorney general of the United States, said that any prosecutor — a dishonest, unethical prosecutor — could rummage through the statute books and come up with something against virtually anyone."

    "I'm not voting for Donald Trump," Dershowitz said. "I have a constitutional right to vote against him for the third time. That shouldn't be interfered with by any prosecutor. This is about you and me. This is about your Uncle Charlie. This is about your daughter-in-law. This is about prosecutors being able to go after anybody. And it doesn't matter if you're a liberal, conservative, Democrat, or Republican.

    "My biggest disappointment is with civil libertarians, people who claim they believe in the Constitution remaining silent in the face of this horrible injustice."

    He also discussed reports that Bragg, like several other district attorneys across the country, was voted into office after funding through megadonor George Soros, while rejecting arguments from some quarters that say it's antisemitic to speak out about the influential multimillionaire.

    "I'm a proud, deeply committed Jew and Zionist. And I think that what Soros is doing — distorting civil liberties, distorting human rights — is outrageous. And I want to be the first to attack George Soros," said Dershowitz. "I'm not attacking him because he's Jewish. I'm attacking him because what he's doing is wrong. ... Whether we're Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, we have the right to attack him on the merits. So don't be fearful of the charge of antisemitism when you're going after Soros on the merits."

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/alan-dershowitz-alvin-bragg-donald-trump/2023/03/19/id/1112686/

    Earlier on Saturday Dershowitz said, 'I'm a Liberal Democrat and I want to vote against Trump for a third time'.
     
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    Voting for/Not voting for Mango has nothing to do with potential upcoming legal charges.

    NOBODY gives a **** what Alan Dershowitz has to say anymore... He's barely 2 steps above Rudy on the legal hierarchy anyway...
     
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    Exactly.

    Remember When Bill Clinton Paid Paula Jones $850,000 in Hush Money?

    Former President Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones a whopping $850,000 to keep her quiet over sexual harassment claims — but was never arrested for it.

    In 1998, the Washington Post reported, “President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to the worst political crisis of his career and only the third presidential impeachment inquiry in American history.”

    https://www.cf.org/news/remember-when-bill-clinton-paid-paula-jones-850000-in-hush-money/
     
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    Harvard Law School certainly does, and that's one of the most prestigious ones in the country.
     
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    Here's our corrupt GQP Congress weighing in, considering issuing a subpoena to Alvin Bragg because..... anybody can fill in that blank

    SNIP
    House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and senior GOP leaders are preparing to demand testimony from members of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's Office amid reports of an imminent indictment of former President Donald Trump.

    Republicans are discussing firing off letters summoning employees of the Manhattan DA’s office for sworn testimony, according to a GOP official familiar with the plans. The potential request comes amid speculation about why the hush-money case was suddenly resurrected after being back-burnered by both state and federal prosecutors
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-targets-manhattan-da-140948157.html

    No jurisdiction here.. Bragg should tell them to go pound sand, much like the current House Judiciary Chair himself did last year...
     
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    Clinton never paid Jones "hush money"
    Jones went public with the sex accusations then filed a civil suit.
    That lawsuit was thrown out, Jones appealed and won.
    Clinton settled with her for 850,000 and iirc: she asked for only 7'something.
     
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    What's the due process Trump was denied?
     
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    Exactly. The Trumpers here have an atrocious grasp of law and procedure.
     
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    hush money is the same as a civil settlement.
     
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    And terminology and logic and comparisons and definitions
     
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    We all do; if anything, it DOESN'T mean that Harvard Law endorses his idiotic rants. The man hasn't tried one ****ing case. Not one.
     
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    It means they (thankfully) don't offically let him near young legal minds anymore...

    Do you know who Hannibal Lecter is?
     
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    Soros "funded" Alvin Bragg's prosecution? LOL! Talk about ridiculous.
     
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    Not quite:
    Academically and socially Dershowitz made himself irreverent.
    Thankfully he gets corrected by Constitutional scholars on all his "that's unconstitutional" as he defends one conspiracy right-wing nut after another.
    He just got censored for his Kari Lake bullshit lawsuit.



    'The Dersh' Stands Alone'

    'Alan Dershowitz's legal arguments against impeaching President Trump have thrust him even farther into academe's margins'.
    snip:

    "Unsurprisingly, given that popular opinion, many scholars quickly panned Dershowitz’s speech before the Senate. (He also grabbed op-ed headlines such as,Dershowitz May Have Argued Himself out of Relevance” (The Washington Post) and “The Dubious Impeachment Proclamations of Alan Dershowitz” (USA Today).

    ‘A Joke’

    Laurence Tribe, Carl M. Loeb University Professor at Harvard and a co-organizer of the Friday letter against Dershowitz’s analysis, for example, wrote on Twitter last week that Dershowitz “just argued that a president who believes only he can fix it -- who thinks his re-election is vital to the nation -- can’t be impeached for abusing his power to corrupt the next election in his favor because by definition he’s doing what he thinks best for the country!!”

    Nikolas Bowie, an assistant professor of law at Harvard whom Dershowitz cited during the trial, went on CNN to call his analysis a “joke.” Abuse of power, Bowie said, is in fact a crime, of which people have been recently convicted. And “criminal corruption,” he said, is not comparable to “maladministration” -- a term evoked by Dershowitz but which Bowie said was the 18th-century equivalent of getting a bad performance review."

    snip:

    "And Bowman told the Post that Dershowitz was “essentially alone, and I mean alone,” in his views.

    “What Dershowitz did,” he added, “was stand up and be a guy with Harvard attached to his name and spout complete nonsense that’s totally unsupported by any scholarship, anywhere.”


    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/02/03/alan-dershowitz-finds-himself-thrust-academes-margins
    Nope.
     
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