What is the Republican plan to fight racism?

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    What is the Republican plan to fight racism? Do Republicans believe that racism has been defeated or is so limited that it is no longer worth devoting much time or resources to address? Democrats tend to be loud and proud about their stance on the issue, yet I hear little from the right on the issue and their plans if any to combat racism.
     
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    You probably hear little from the right about it because fine tuning feelings hasn't been considered a traditional function of government. Now the effects of racism, like discrimination, is another story, but I don't see a real program to fight racism.

    What's your idea? How should the government "fight racism?"
     
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    I tend to trust what social scientists have to say on the topic. With that said I usually read a good book or two or three written by experts on such subjects but have yet to pick up one on racism. Actually I did read a book on CTR and came to see that it is not what many on the right present it as. CTR is a horrible name for it anyway as it makes it sound like a single theory when in fact it is many competing theories, some of which conflict with one another. As I tend not to trust a single book on such controversial subject I will read more books in the future. Would be interested in a book on the conservative side of the coin if one exists.
     
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    So you're mad at the Republicans for not having a plan to fight racism when you don't have one yourself?
     
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    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    I am not angry at republicans nor do I think my undergraduate degree on InfoSec qualifies me to solve such a complex issue. If you want advice on information security I may be of some service. When it comes to race relations I defer to sociologists and neuroscientists.
     
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    And yet, this is your topic. You are not merely some drive by observer.
     
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    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    This thread is an effort to understand the conservative perspective. Unless the rules have changed it is OK to ask for the perspective of others. Do you have a problem with that? If so, why?
     
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    yes, that. The Civil Rights movement succeeded (and them some...).

    I 'address' racism by not treating anyone differently based on their skin color or ethnicity. The only overt racism I've personally witnessed in real life was by foreigners or ethnic minorities- ukrainian nationals vs jamaican nationals one time, and a native american vs an african american one time. I had relatives (all dead now) that espoused racist views in private, but I never witnessed them act on it.

    I regularly witness what I would call culturism (or cultural discrimination). For example, a jeans and cowboy boots wearing redneck sneering at the base shaking their house as a 'stanced af' riceburner drives by pumping hiphop. Or a joggers and dreadlocks sporting urbanite tossing their green tea at the lifted, smog belching monster truck that drives by with a Trump flag on the back. I think a lot of what is called 'racism' is just cultural clash. Its just that there's a high degree of overlap between cultures and ethnicities, and it can appear as racism. But what I know for sure is anyone who listens to country or rock, hunts, drives a 4x4 and wears flannel is going to be welcome in 'Redneck America' regardless of what skin color they have, and similarly strangers with their pants sagged to their knees, rap music playing and stinking of weed are going to be received with annoyance and suspicion regardless of their skin color. That's not race or ethnicity, its culture.
     
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    Thanks for your perspective. You make a good point about the clash of cultures. Race relations have improved immensely since 1964, yet I am not convinced that there is not more to be done. With that said I have very limited knowledge on the issue and must admit that your perspective may be right. You have given me some food for thought.
     
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    I gave you an answer and apparently you didn't like it, and didn't want to respond to my question, so meh...
     
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    I speak not for the Republican party but for myself as a Republican. First of all, when I have to fill out a form and it ask's for race or nationality I write American. I don't contribute to any group that tries to promote their ethnicities. Am I racist because I don't support the slogan "No lives matter until Black Lives matter? Hell NO! All lives matter from the moment of conception until their final days. Am I a racist because I am against open borders? Hell No! America has a constitution like most countries that set boundaries for their protection. They have laws for the LEGAL immigration from other countries on the needs of the nation. A country that cannot control it's borders is doomed to fail. The one great thing about our country is a Constitution that is a REPUBLIC and not a DEMOCRACY. We have a system that can address the grievances of the oppressed or disenfranchised. By all measures we are a young country and we have made many mistakes in the past but we have made strides to overcome the abuses. The problem is that there are those who want to keep the minorities in boxes instead of letting us be AMERICANS. PERIOD.
     
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    We are not a "young country"
    We are the oldest democratic republic on the planet.

    We can get into the "the moment of conception" comment later
     
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    Imho, as neither a dem or rep, I'd say neither party has a very good track record when it comes to racism. The Clinton's for example are a disgraceful racist family, from Hilary s war against Africa to bills war against conscious black thought.
     
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    Neuroscience lmao.

    It's a pseudo science. If you want to understand racism, read some black literature. Dr. Henrik Clarke is a good start.
     
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    USA is a young country compared to most super powers that are thousands of years old.
     
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    There is the physical country as defined by it's borders..but that is hardly what makes a country.

    What makes a country is it's system of government. It's continuous existence under the same form of leadership. The Great Britain of 1776 is not the same Great Britain of today. It is no longer led by a King. The United States Government has an uninterpreted history of over 200 years, the longest on the planet.
     
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    Democracy doesn't make a country, neither does sham democracies or democracyLite
     
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    USA has 2-300 years of history, Egypt has over 5,000, think about that for a minute before you preen your feathers.
     
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    Are Pharohs still ruling Egypt? I don't think so.
     
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    You mean Pharaoh's?

    Ok, maybe it's a little unfair to compare USA to Africa when it comes to civilization but how about Briton? Our civilization is over 2000 years old, makes your villages in USA seem fairly primitive in terms of knowledge and wisdom right?
     
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    Are the KKK still ruling USA?
     
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    I'm assuming the Dems in USA are the equivalent to labour in the UK. Well, labour in the UK is currently under real scrutiny regarding its open anti black racist sentiment. Most notably with its refusal to acknowledge the forde report which highlighted labours hierarchy of racism that put black lives as the least of its concern and white lives as its highest priority.

    Damning indictment of kier stammer and his white supremacist doctrine.
     
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    To be fair, Republicans helped pass civil rights legislation and when Democrats tried to purge its racists they all ran into the open arms of Republicans. Now, if you are a racist you vote Republican. Republicans have since tried to block or suppress any efforts to fight racism.
     
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    I wasn't just referring to our system of government but all forms of government. Compared to some Monarchy's we are just a baby. One of the great fears is that we are the oldest democratic republic because normally other forms of government have failed by this point in their longevity.
     
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    Racist certainly still exists, but the efforts to "fight" it these days do much more to increase rather than decrease it. We were on the right track when we pushed for recignizing people as individuals and pushed for inclusion and to disregard race as unimportant. These days we see people pushing race as important and even for segregation and different treatment based on it, while calling that "anti-racist" rather than racist.
     
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