At least 20 injured, multiple dead from shooting at Alabama birthday party, reports say

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You've responded to the exact same post of mine about 3x now.
    Are you just trolling now?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Leftist gun banners don't want to do anything about criminals for several reasons
    1) cracking down on criminals would take take the focus off of their real goals-disarming honest Americans
    2) cracking down on criminals will reduce crime and dilute the calls by the sheeple for "something to be done"
    3) many leftists see felons as their political allies
     
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    I won’t call you a liar but, by your own admission it was years ago and memory can play tricks
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    You are excuse making for the mostly slanted to the left MSM who only reports what they want YOU to know.
     
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    'go after them' means address the actual issue....the people.

    The left wants to address everything BUT the people committing the crime. If they cared they wouldn't be letting violent criminals back out onto the streets to commit more crime after they've been caught.

    The proof is in the lefts actions regarding this issue. Their actions are what's telling. You can spew all the talking points you want, but the refusal of the left to even attempt to tackle the real issue is all that matters here.
     
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    You are.
     
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    Sooooo - where is the funding for mental health? I mean the republicans have control of the house surely they can push through a bill or two?

    I mean Australia and the UK managed to reduce our mass shooting rates

    BTW “Thoughts and prayers” don’t seem to be doing a lot
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    Show me the post that I said that in
     
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    Last week I posted a story about to rival gangs having a shoot out on the highways of Oakland resulting in the death of a two year old baby in a nearby car. The DA in the case is considering NOT sending them to prison.

    My suggestion would be to make committing a crime while being in a gang gets an enhanced penalty. Using a gun while committing any other crime and being in a gang gets an even larger enhancement.Committing murder while in a gang gets an automatic death penalty regardless of all the excuses often used to get out of it.

    Then advertise that punishment on every billboard, sign, church, school, radio and tv station and vigorously enforce it.
     
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  11. dairyair

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    I said nothing about MSM.
    I never limited to any media.
    All media run stories on what sells. It's how they make money.

    Read what you respond to and don't make bad assumptions.
     
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    Nope, didn't claim any of that.

    Your argument here is so weak that you now have to pretend I said things I didn't in order to make a a point.

    And the reason that there's more crimes in major cities has a LOT more to do with who's there than it simply being a numbers issue. Stop acting like it's simply a population issue. It's not, the numbers prove that.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america

    The cities on this list have many things in common. If it was simply a numbers issue then shouldn't there be small rural largely republican towns on this list? I mean if it's just math and we take population out of it...right?

    The position you're taking isn't supported by anything factual.

    You can argue with someone else now, this is such a waste of time. Just another lefty who's afraid to be honest about an issue.
     
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    So there have been less than 150 mass shootings since 1982? That’s less than four per year.
     
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    It's the result of politics taking precedent over all else.

    And biden going after the NRA like clockwork....they literally have nothing to do with this, but this is who they go after. Again, politics above all else might as well be the motto of the left.
     
  15. dairyair

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    Hmm,
    This chart was in a link in the post you responded to. Where'd you get 150 mass shootings since 1982 from?

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    Too easy, too pragmatic, and makes way too much sense.

    Much better to hear the great uniter, POTUS blame Republicans for siding with the NRA. :wall:
    What's sad is to hear the echo chamber repeat his political garbage as if it's really the solution. :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Did you bother to look at the link I provided. The SAFE act was only supported in NYC and suburbs. You said cities have to follow the laws of States and I pointed out to you with a pretty good example that that large Urban liberal cities often control State politics.

    I never said anything about shootings in red states so was your last sentence some sort of strawman fallacy debating tactic?
     
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    You gave 1 instance in 1 State. And in the State with the largest city in USA.
    In general, cities are NOT making State laws.

    I used red States because you chose to use that 1 instance from a blue state.

    And this thread is about a city in Alabama. Not a very large one either.
    So I don't see what that one instance has to do with this thread or the fact that States Legislators and govs make State laws.
     
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    Seems that way to me as well. I'm sure we aren't alone, Buri.
     
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    What is this obsession you people have with bashing Christians? The only people talking about hope and prayer in this thread seem to be liberals and always in a christian bashing context. Perhaps take the christian bashing to the religion section of PF. I am not a Christian, but the bigotry is offensive.

    The solution to the current problem IMHO is to reverse the course of liberalism. When I was in grade school many of my friends owned rifles. These guns were hung on the bedroom wall. No one got shot. I did not live in some rural area. I lived in a suburb of Washington DC (Falls Church VA). Guns could be ordered in the mail. Do you have any clue what changed?
     
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    Stop it? We can't even discuss it in this madhouse.
     
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    The perps are using all of the above to their own lawless advantage. The idiot politicians aren't paying attention to any of it because they CAUSED the increase in CRIME.
     
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    so you weren't there and you are claiming what I quoted another student as saying was not true. This is a dishonest contrarian attack-you weren't there but you want to pretend I wasn't accurately quoting something you didn't witness

    seriously-his point doesn't "prove" anything, but it is a strong rebuttal to the Democrat schemes to want to ban guns. what he was saying is if you are going to crap all over the constitution, you might as well do it in a way that reduces crime.
     
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    Such a good post. It cuts right through the usual Bullshit we see written on these types of threads.
    Thank you. :)
     

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