This is mostly addressing Abrahamic followers who are anti-trans -- something I thought of in another thread but no one was able to answer. What is God's gender? Now this question in itself is nothing new. It came up in church all of the time growing up. But the answer I always received to that question flies in the face of Judeo-Christian anti-trans ideology. Obviously, the Bible repeatedly refers to God as a "He." Okay, but God has no biology. He doesn't have physical gentiles or chromosomes. The answer I was always given as a kid was that there was more to being a male than biology . . . which is the opposite of what I hear from the anti-trans crowd now. The Bible says man and woman were both made in God's image . . . does that make God non-binary? And if we do stick with God being a "He," then it sounds like you are saying we should respect people's preferred pronouns regardless of their biology.
Why do supposedly intelligent modern people believe in silly ancient ethnoentric Middle Eastern Jewish and Arabian religious fairytales when there is zero evidence that they are credible? maybe it'sbecause they like the racism and bigotry of the biblical fairytale and they like the hell of the Islamic version.
Culturally it makes sense that God is described as a "he". If God is a Spirit there are no pronouns associated with it, but mankind needs a reference point to relate to a spiritual being.
To be perfectly clear here, you have absolutely no evidence of your assertions, no ability to quantify your assertions, or otherwise provide any supporting observable evidence of your assertion. Your logic is pretty shaky. You conflate essentially different narratives into one that wasn't inferred or otherwise indicated in the narrative of the bible. Want to hear something really unnerving? The Sumarians story that predates the bible says the "gods" meaning plural gods had no gender at all, but refer to each other as "he" or "she", but they were "immortal" so it didn't ever actually matter. It is said that sometime around 450K years ago, they genetically manipulated the local species, and "created" mankind to be slaves in support of their gold mining operations. And then one of them "cheated" and gave man the ability to have sex which required two sexes. God has one pronoun. God. Unless they have a specific name, like Enki, or others.... Enlil, etc....
Yea, and I said the pronouns are culturally driven. God has no human form, but man can't relate to that.
What have I said that isn't substantiated. And, no "God" isn't a pronoun. The Bible repeatedly uses he/him as pronouns for God. How did you not know that before today?
That's not what I said. If you want me to continue this discussion with you stop putting words in my mouth.
You literally claimed that he/him are not limited to biology. Are you changing your mind? If so, then is God no longer a he/him or does God have a biological penis? Which is it?
Bingo. "According to the web search results, God is not male or female, but spirit1234. God is not limited by gender or human categories14. Some suggest that God used masculine imagery and terms in the Bible to distinguish himself from pagan goddesses or to accommodate the patriarchal culture of ancient Israel5. However, this does not mean that God is more masculine than feminine5." 1) Is God Male? - CBE International 2) Is God male or female? (compellingtruth.org) 3) Is God Male or Female? Does the Bible Say? (whatchristianswanttoknow.com) 4) Is God Male or Female? - Josh.org 5) Is God Male or Masculine? - Marg Mowczko
You know what the rest of your day thing is about. He's done. Read that poster's statements to you. All of them. FWIW, how about just accepting what people contribute, instead of trying to speak for them or twist what they are saying. I won't be answering your rebuttal to my post, btw. Either you get what I am saying or you don't.
I'm not saying that at all nor was @Overitall. If you actually bothered to read and think about what is being written, you'd know this.
He/him are gendered pronouns and you both agree they apply to someone without any kind of masculine biology -- God. Either that or you are either saying that God should not be referred to as he/him or you are saying God has a biological sex. Or you are saying there is more to gender than just biology. There are no other options. There's a reason you can't articulate one.
It was crystal clear as to what you wrote. One of the most intelligent statements to the thread. Thank you for that. I don't have to remind you that It's simply not fun for some if they don't attempt to put words in the mouths of other posters. That's why they post.
Yes. It is clear that both of you are avoiding the concept of gendered pronouns and are unwilling to answer the questions in the OP. Why is that?
It's so much simpler than the above and you won't have to guess. Why don't YOU actually read my post, and the links I provided that articulate my argument to the letter "T".
My source backs up what you have written. Gendered Language for God Do you think of God as male? It seems a lot of people do. This is probably due to the fact that God is typically referred to in English Bibles with masculine pronouns such as “he,” as well as a few masculine terms including “father.” But does this masculine language really mean that God is male or masculine? God’s transcendent nature and divine character are beyond our human understanding. To help our understanding, God is often portrayed in the Scriptures metaphorically, using imagery and similes that we humans can identify with. These Biblical metaphors of God are primarily designed to help us understand God “relationally and analogically” and should not be taken literally.[1] God is sometimes portrayed in the Bible with metaphors we tend to associate with maleness and masculinity. He is sometimes referred to as a father,[2] a king, and a warrior, etc. These masculine metaphors have dominated the Church’s view of God. However, the Scriptures also refer to God using metaphors we tend to associate with femaleness and femininity. These feminine metaphors of God have been largely ignored by many in the Church. We will be looking at some examples of these feminine metaphors below, but first, let’s see what Genesis 1 says about men and women. Is God Male or Masculine? - Marg Mowczko
So you agree that there is more to gender identification than just biology. You are literally saying that it is appropriate to use these gendered pronouns regardless of biology. Read. Think.
