God's Gender

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  1. Overitall

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    It seems what the OP is not getting is the fact that even God knows the difference between male and female which is indicated by the choice to be referred to as a "he". His target audience related to the male figure as the provider for the family.
     
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    God knows the difference but can't articulate the difference? Why is that?
     
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    God exists well beyond the confines of human ability to understand, however the part of the Trinity that chose to manifest himself in human form- Jesus- was (and remains) decidedly male.

    Beyond that, there are only 2 genders determined by biological chromosome combinations. Sexual preferences can vary, but gender does not.

    The problem with the current fad of transgenderism is the very real damage it can do to the inherently physically weaker gender- female- and children.

    A much more extensive discussion of paganism and the problems with it (including a definition of what that means) is here:

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/liel-leibovitz/paganism-afflicts-america/

    And that's typically what religious are objecting to in the idea of transgender.
     
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    This is why I specified God the Father. He has no biology. So if he is a a he, there must be more to gender than biology
     
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    God is the Creator of the Universe. Nothing about God (including biology) applies to Him. When he chose to manifest Himself in human form, it was as a male.

    There remains nothing more to human gender than simple biology.
     
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    Cool story, Malarkey

    A real shame that you don't have even a speck of credible or compelling evidence to support it...
     
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    Like somehow you've got credible evidence to refute it?
     
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    if trans females are really males.... then can they go topless in public the same as males can?

    I mean you have to go by the birth gender right?
     
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    Again, the OP is ignoring the cultural history in which God was assigned the male characteristic. Transgenderism was not a thing at that time and the people only recognized separate genders easily identified. If you ask a forensic anthropologist to identify the gender of ancient bones they would have no trouble doing so because biology is clear. But the transgenderism woke mob wants to ignore science and redefine the terms based on feelings. It's the newest religion on the block.
     
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    So you agree that being male is about more than genitals and chromosomes. And, no, transgenderism isn't new. At all.
     
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    Again, I'm referring to God the Father, not God the Son. And God the Father was referred to as male long, long before his son supposedly became manifest in human form.

    If there is nothing more to gender than simple biology, then God the Father is not a "He." Why did the Bible make that mistake?
     
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    I'm not sure why you're having such a difficult time understanding what I'm saying. It's really not that complicated.
     
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    You are either agreeing with me, contradicting yourself, or saying that God the Father isn't a "he." Sorry, but there are really no other options here. If gender is purely biological, then God can't be a "he." If God is a "he," then there's more to gender than biology. It's really not that complicated.
     
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    OK, that question is so absurdly irrational, you got me.

    Whatever.
     
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    How is it irrational to ask if God the Father is a "he" when the Bible says explicitly that he is?

    The point is that it is absurdly irrational to believe all of the following, as they are self contradictory:

    1) God the Father is a "he"
    2) Gender is entirely biological
    3) God the Father is not biological

    At least one of these things are necessarily false.
     
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    You insist on ignoring the role that culture played on assigning a gender to God. There's a good reason why the male characteristic was chosen instead of the female. Your transgenderism game doesn't apply, but I get why you're stuck on the same refrain.
     
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    He likes loaded questions. :)
     
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    No. I don't. I'm trying to get YOU GUYS to understand that.

    What biological characteristics of God caused this male characteristic to be "chosen" for God?

    The refrain would stop if someone would just answer.
     
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    Explain what is wrong with any of the questions.
     
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    Several thoughts come to mind.

    1. The predominant influence in most societies was male. Women were lesser beings, until not that long ago. Anything with power would have been gendered male.

    2. Look at our own legal verbiage. 'The pronoun He shall be construed to encompass any individual regardless of gender'.

    3. Only finicky things like cars or boats are female, everyone knows that. (for those that need to be told, that is humor)
     
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    The role of the male was determined by biology. The role of the female was likewise determined by biology. That's how culture works. The transgenderism woke mob merely wants to blur the roles.

    Tell me. If a trans woman really wants to identify as a woman shouldn't she support protecting women athletes by excluding themselves from competing with them?
     
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    This one would mean that God was subjecting himself to human sins, though.

    This one actually has teeth as Hebrew has no gender neutral pronoun. But, this of course still means gendering non-biological beings.

    Don't forget hurricanes.
     
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    What is God's biology? Where is his penis? Where are his XY chromosomes?

    Meanwhile, several cultures have disagreed with what you are saying above and they have differed on what those roles are.

    Feel free to ask that question somewhere where it is on-topic.
     
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    You're not interested in our perspective; you're only interested in winning the debate.
     
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    The subject of the thread is really about transgenderism. You may mask it with religious undertones but no one is fooled by that.
     
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