God's Gender

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm always interested in hearing how people explain prima fascia contradictions. Hell, some of the best conversations I've had with Christians (even when I was one) have been about the free will vs determinism debate and the compatibilists there converted me to their side.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who are interested in an honest debate don't badger people the way you do.
     
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    As the author of the subject of the thread, you are wrong. I'm asking how Judeo-Christians can both believe that non-biological entities can be male but that gender is also entirely biological. That's it. Pretty simple. Or at least it should be.

    I'll try that again: how can one believe that non-biological entities can be male but also believe that gender is entirely biological?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There has been no debate so far. Or answers. I'm asking as simple question: How can one believe that non-biological entities can be male but also believe that gender is entirely biological?
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you think anyone is going to fall for this you're mistaken. This topic only arose because of the current social controversy over transgenderism. Please stop with your attempted ruse. It's too obvious what you're going for.
     
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    How does a forensic anthropologist determine the gender of the bones they are examining?
     
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    The answer should be a simple one. It shouldn't require "falling" for anything. I'm asking people to address an apparent contradiction in their philosophy. Happens every day in this forum.
     
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    I'll happily answer your question if you answer the one I had already asked you. So, unless you are going to tell me that a forensic anthropologist examined God's bones . . .
     
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    Repetition is a form of badgering. The issue has been addressed, but you refuse to accept the simple explanation.
     
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    Well, here we go again. Your time is almost up.
     
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    The issue hasn't been addressed. The question has not been answered. No explanation, simple or otherwise, has been offered. That's the only reason for the repetition.
     
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    Enjoy the rest of your day.
     
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    You, too
     
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    It's really a simple question to answer, if one is familiar with cultural history. Trying to apply transgenderism to a culture that NEVER would have considered it is a ignorant endeavor in any pursuit of knowledge.
     
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    If it is so simple, then someone will finally answer it. I don't see any Judeo-Christians referring to God as "they" rather than "he" when they say he has no gender. @Trixare4kids , do you refer to God with masculine, feminine, or gender-neutral pronouns?
     
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    Not at all. External sources are gendering, not God.

    It is human nature to attempt to identify others. Wrongly or rightly it has been so, long before the existence of the Bible.


    They've gone with both now I believe, since there were complaints. Remember Hurrican Andrew? Homestead FL won't....
     
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    I can see that argument coming from someone who does not believe that the Bible is the word of God.

    Again, this only makes sense for someone who does not believe that the Bible is the word of God. Which, of course, I don't either, but I'm curious to hear from those who do.


    I forgot about that! I had to look that up. Looks like it was changed in 1979.
     
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    Quick question, if this is the route you want to go down: what if it was the brain being examined and not the bones? And why would bones be more important than brains?
     
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    It is. Good to see we're on the same page here. :)
     
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    Apparently my religious position is obvious. Doesn't really change my observations, though.
     
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    No, and I don't see any contradiction with what you are saying. It only becomes an apparent contradiction if you are a Judeo-Christian who believes that the Bible is the word of God and also claims that gender is entirely biological.
     
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    When you are referring to God, do you use gendered or gender-neutral pronouns? Hebrew and Greek didn't have gender-neutral pronouns. English does. If God is gender-neutral, why not use gender-neutral pronouns?
     
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    It's tantamount for anyone trying to understand how words are defined to consider the cultural influences on them. There was a clear demarcation between the genders (and biology determined it) during the times that the Bible was written. If you try to apply modern day thinking to the past a person will never really understand the meaning and usage of the words used.
     
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    So was God's demarcation based on his biology or on culture? If the later, you finally understand what I was arguing.
     
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    Some should have no difficulty understanding then why God is rereferred to as a "he" in the Bible. As you said, it was cultural, hence he was described as a male. Unless there is a pronoun for the Holy Spirit, there's only two choices, he and she.

    King James Bible
    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Genesis 1:27
     
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