Tucker Carlson out at Fox News

Ok, so Carlson did something and management did approve of it so now he’s gone.

I remember a time when a guy did an entire show on someone’s taxes. The legality of how those taxes were obtained is still a mystery and I don’t recall anyone anywhere doing an investigation on how those taxes got leaked. Apparently, the company where this guy worked didn’t seem to care about doing an entire show on someone’s taxes without the taxpayer’s permission, and I don’t recall the company ever trying to verify if they were real or not. Anyway, the company didn’t give a hoot about the legal and ethical ramifications and let the guy do his show without getting fired.

Think of all the lies and defamation that was vomited by left wing media. There’s the Russia Russia Russia hoax, Putin’s puppet, Russian mafia, German banks, and no one got fired or sued.

And didn’t Pocahontas once question the integrity of Dominion’s voting machines? Yes she did, but she probably didn’t get sued because Dominion didn’t want to be paid in blankets and beads.

 

LMAO... Blankets and beads.... Good thing I wasn't drinking a tasty cold beverage....

 

Ah, this the real reason:

 

So do I.

I often think about it.

That's right. But the days we remember are the ones that were back when we criticized the Fascist Soviet Union - and rightfully so that we did. Today we must condition ourselves to appreciate the very same misdeeds now that it's us in the West who are committing them. George Orwell knew much too much.

 

Tucker 2024...Great Idea...
Tucker would be a fool NOT to run...
Tucker could easily steamroll Trump and Ron D. in a GOP Primary...

 

Carlson was fired for one reason and only one reason. He could not be controlled by the establishment mainstream media.

 

truth is subjective and everyone has their own truth. I disagree there's more truth coming out of Carlson. But, I don't watch or follow any of the 24/7 reality tv that masquerade as news.

But there's usually only 1 set of facts.

As for your last sentence, I don't think you have a clue about what I know. Simply because I disagree with your false assessment of free speech.

 

Promoting the overturning of a democratic election process is hardly individual freedom. That is tyranny.

 

There was this possiblity:
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Tucker Carlson may have been fired from Fox News after going too hard on the “prayer talk,” according to a new report in Vanity Fair.

A source briefed on Fox Corp. chair Rupert Murdoch’s decision-making said Carlson was ousted over remarks he made during a speech Friday night at the Heritage Foundation’s 50th Anniversary gala in Maryland, according to Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman.
Report Suggests Tucker Carlson Was Fired Over Prayer Talk: 'Freaks Rupert Out' (yahoo.com)

Or, there was this possibility:

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Tucker Carlson’s firing from Fox News came after he used vulgar language to describe a network executive, the Wall Street Journal reported.
Carlson described a senior Fox News executive as a C-word in a text message obtained by lawyers as part of a defamation lawsuit between the network and Dominion Voting Systems, according to the Journal, which like Fox is part of the Murdoch media empire.
Tucker Carlson’s vulgar language in texts contributed to Fox News firing – report | Fox News | The Guardian

 

Yea, he is a piece of **** liar and was a liability to fox.

 

Tucker Carlson had to go because he did not follow the script thrown out by the establishment media. He could not be controlled. Even by the organization he worked for.

You could tune in to his show and he would be discussing an issue you’d only hear from him. Then when he would discuss mainstream current events, he’d have a take you’d only hear from him.

People on all sides would sometimes agree and disagree with him. He made the political establishment uncomfortable.

 

I’d like to see you wale up and enter the real world

 

Why? This is not about me, or you.

 

What?

Actually it’s about your ignorant comment about Carlson. You have nothing of substance to add the the discussion.

 

If Carlson would have followed the establishment script, he would be a permanent fixture in the mainstream media.


He was just too unpredictable and went against the grain. He raised issues which the mainstream political establishment refused to address. So, instead of responding in a substantive and factual manner, get rid of him.

 

Only to those who believe the election results are accurate.

 

What did I get wrong about that piece of crap?

Nothing that will penetrate your blind devotion to the scumbag. Say a lot about you too.

 

Did Tucker take the 40,000 hrs of the Capital's security footage home with him?
It was a personal gift from "My Kevin".

 

You aren’t worth the time. You have nothing of value to add.

 

Actually, that is what the First Amendment says regarding Freedom of Speech. The amendment specifically says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Thus, Congress is akin to the government in the 18th-century vernacular. Private enterprises can prohibit freedom of speech in which if you use their property on their premises.

The government also does not get involved into internal business disputes. If you work for a company, use their property, or work on their hours, you either adhere to their rules or you are terminated. SCOTUS will not hear your first amendment claim at all. SCOTUS has made rules in which a business can deny service to anyone whom the business feels either threatened or disruption of their business operations. Thus, going into a place of establishment and protesting is up to the business. If the business wants you gone and you refuse, then you risk a trespassing charge. And in some states, if the owner or proprietor of the establishment tells you to leave, the police show up and ask you to leave, and you refuse, then criminal trespass may be in order and that may be an arrestable offense. All of this while exercising your free assembly in the 1st Amendment.

I don't think you know what it is, at least freedom of speech. You have commercial speech, which is different than free speech. We have political speech which is free speech. We have a right ot redress, aka protests, petitions, and other such avenues against grievances, but that stops when making threats or being threatening to public safety. And that is a slippery slope to say the least. Freedom of the press does not mean the press can say whatever they want. They have industry standards and they cannot defame or slander as it is in NYT v Sullivan case. You have to prove malice, which is what Dominion had the goods on Fox and why Fox settled because it would be much, much worse if they haven't.

https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment1.html
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment1/free-speech-legal-doctrines.html
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment1/when-can-the-government-regulate-free-speech-.html

 

Not necessarily true. there are limits. Companies can make promotions that should not be extremely vague, excessive promises or guarantees, and some other limits. But generally, if you are on private property, including property owned by a business, they can limit such speech if that lmiit is generally universal. If not, then a civil liability may ensue, but not a violation of the 1st amendment.

You were almost there dairyair, just added for clarification.

 

What Gitterdone does not understand you can say pretty much anything and everything, but that is not going to protect you from the investigation. If Gitterdone was being investigated and wanted to say he did it, and made that statement voluntarily, then cannot use the first amendment to protect him from prosecution. Gitterdone is not someone who understands what the limits of freedoms are including in criminal or civil cases, especially with defamation and false statements under oath.

 

Fox Management may have approved it, but Fox Management also agreed to pay $787.5 million to Dominion. So cuts have to come somewhere. Hence, excecutive perks, benefits, and other such things are not on the table. Employees and their most controversial personalities are gone. They are the "sacrificial" lamb so that Fox News can continue to do what it continues to do until Semantic Systems Lawsuit gets rolling and where Fox will probably have to settle for about the same amout of money. Hence, more cuts may be coming to Fox.

 

That statement address nothing and doesn't make sense. Maybe to you it does but not to anyone else.

 

The first ammendment does not say private enterprizes can prohibit free speech.. What on earth are you talking about. The first ammendment says NO Such Thing.. in any way shape or form. As stated previously my friend .. your claim is a falsehood .. not true .

1A does not tell private enterprize to do .. or not do .. anything .. it is about what the Gov't can and can not do .. not about what private industry can and can not do. 1A restricts Gov't from prohibiting Free speech - press - and so on.

So as stateded previously - you do not understand free speech ..nor the question being addressed .. which is perhaps not completely your fault as DA also lost the thread even though it was her question.

The question being addressed is .. if free speech is being degraded .. not what the Gov't thinks . .what the constitution says .. or if private enterprise is allowed to muzzle its employees

My argument .. is that censorship degrades freedom of the press - freedom of information - if done in sufficient quantity - in the case of a system of Oligopoly . one which is intertwined with the bureaucracy.

and that it also degrades democracy .. the lack of a fair and free press.