The media tried to use this story to help propagate the gun control narrative, but they didn't tell all the details of the story. Texas Mass Murderer Was Deported THREE Times Before he murdered 5 of his next-door neighbours on Friday in Texas. He's still at large by the way... I guess he self-deported this time. The 5 people he slaughtered were Honduran nationals apparently. Cleveland, Texas - Immigration officers deported the Mexican man wanted in connection to Friday night’s alleged murder of five Honduran nationals on three occasions, according to the Texas sheriff leading the investigation. The most recent removal came in 2016. San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers told Breitbart Texas on Sunday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers deported 38-year-old Francisco Oropeza, a Mexican national now wanted for five alleged murders, in three separate incidents. Sheriff Capers and other sources advised that the last time ICE officers removed Oropeza was in 2016. EXCLUSIVE: Mexican Migrant Wanted for Murder of Five Hondurans Deported 3 Times, Says Texas Sheriff
Finish the damn wall, landmine the entire border, and put sentry towers every 500 yards. Problem solved. Anyone comes within a mile of the wall, well, they will only do it once....
THe fortified border between East And West Germany would be a good model. No "wall" per se but lots of barbed wire. Motion sensor grenades hanging from the wire. Smooth sand for ten meters on each sided to show if anyone tried to get over it. Movable guard towers. Worked well.
the rich will never give up their cheap labor, they come here for the jobs, want to stop it... go after the employers
And yet he was able to find a house and a gun and live in Tx. And likely held a job. Who hired him illegally?
For once you're correct, FreshAir. Even many of the rich in the Republican Party support the idea of more gun control. (Something a lot of the rank and file Republican voters don't seem to notice or know)
@Alwayssa You were doubting this information based on the source but is the sheriff in San jacinto county enough for you? San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers told Breitbart Texas on Sunday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers deported 38-year-old Francisco Oropeza, a Mexican national now wanted for five alleged murders, in three separate incidents. Sheriff Capers and other sources advised that the last time ICE officers removed Oropeza was in 2016.
"Gun control" is predicated on the assumption that a woman, raped and strangled with her pantyhose, is somehow preferable to that same woman explaining to a Police Officer how her attempted rapist got that hole in his head.
related article that some may find interesting: Why can't our immigration policy be more like India or Japan? (see post #19 by kazenatsu for a copy of the article, since the original link stopped working)
because stopping a woman from carrying an ar-15 around in public somehow prevents her from having a hand gun?
as if that is the only gun control schemes Democrats push. most of them want to ban people carrying handguns. many of them would like to ban handguns. and a great deal of them would hate to see a woman kill someone who tried to assault her
No biggie. In the mind of a progressive, most women can't even remember the names of all the men they've let come inside them. And abortion is "just a little medical procedure", almost routine really.... Literally, in the mind of many progressives, sexual assault falls closer into the category of an infuriating microaggression, along sort of lines of slapping a woman on the butt, or paying her 10% less than her male colleagues working the same job, or a husband smacking his wife for talking back to him in an argument. Yep, guns are not justified, not even to prevent rape. Right now over in Europe women are being advised to crap their pants as a form of defense.
mine caries a Sig 380. Most of the girls I coach in archery or shooting carry knives. And have taken classes in using them for self defense. Ohio has good laws on knives
in my experience it's usually the trophy wives and country club muffies. And if it's often based on bigotry. I remember I was at some black tie event or wedding and one prominent socialite came up to me and said something like "people like you having guns doesn't bother me but those people having them (she was referencing inner city blacks and rural "rednecks") shouldn't.
It's another separate interesting topic. Some people who support gun control are mainly just against trashy poorer people / minorities having them; whereas some on the Left seem more focused on trying to take them away from middle class white people and straight-edge square conservatives. Some rich elites are against the common people having guns, guns only being for people who can afford private security guards. (An example would be Bloomberg who spent a billion dollars trying to become the next Democrat-nominated President)
yeah its sort of like the anti hunters, In England (where I have done "shooting" and my wife has done "Hunting" (the first is shooting at birds, the second is pursuing foxes on horseback) most of the anti hunting is the socialists who hate the aristocracy who are seen as the hunters/shooters. In the USA the anti hunters tend to be rich elitists who look down on the "Bubbas"
It's a Federal felony for illegal aliens to possess guns in The United States. How about the ATF crack down on all these prohibited person's who possess firearms? Illegal aliens get legit jobs by using stolen identities. Let's crack down on that, too. We know why the Feds will never do that, as long as there's a Communist president in office.
Employers Seeing illegals as a source of compliant cheap labor is as much a part of the problem as the sieve we call the border, but there it is follow the money and who profits. So, where does the accountability actual sit and how do we address that?
An update to the story. The news is now reporting that the suspect had been deported FOUR times. At-large Texas mass shooting suspect had been deported 4 times: Source - ABC News The article gives a detailed account of all the four separate times he was previously deported.
sure, how about we make it harder for them to buy a gun illegally, better background checks, gun registries maybe?
FreshAir, since he was an illegal alien, I'm sure he purchased the gun illegally. Background checks would not have helped. Gun registries might theoretically help, but in reality would probably not. Guns can be stolen, or people can falsely claim they were stolen. Guns in the U.S. already have serial numbers on them, and the current system in the U.S. already keeps a delocalized registry of sorts. The gun dealers are required to keep records, and law enforcement can call up a particular serial number if they want, and then the gun dealer is forced to provide the information. What you have brought up is a complicated topic that is probably better to have in another separate thread. I suspect even if guns in the U.S. were made illegal, the cartels in Mexico would set up underground factories to begin producing them, just like they produce drugs. The big cartels in Mexico can be pretty sophisticated. Some of them even have access to armored vehicles and military weapons (that are very restricted in the U.S.). Many officials in the Mexican government are corrupt and under the pay of the cartels. But again, that's a separate topic...