Gun Deaths Per Capita By State

Statistics are best when you break them out into groups.
It's like smokers: X% of smokers die before age 70.
Missing: auto accidents, murder, lightening, other u related diseases.

 

You already know we aren't talking about anything but guns deaths here.

Stop pretending to be stupid, people might start believing you.

 

No, it's not a simple question and it doesn't have a simple answer. Suicide is suicide whatever method is chosen. It is dishonest to frame it the same as violent assault with a firearm.

 

It's a simple yes or no question. You're deliberately trying to cloud the issue.

 

clouding the issue? this happens daily from anti gun types who pretend that banning guns that are used in less than one percent of all murders is motivated by a desire to increase public safety

 

Asked and answered.

 

Asked and answered.

 

Do they have low gun deaths or low rates of gun deaths?

 

We’re not talking gun suicides. It’s gun deaths as in violence and crime. No one is dumb enough to include suicides, as that’s another matter entirely. The people who do that are just being dishonest about the issue.

 

There are under 600,000 people in WY. So if there were 26/100,000 that means there were about 16 total deaths.

 

Nope, dodged. Republicans can't give a straight answer. Failing to dodge, no matter how weakly, might get them kicked outta the club.

 

Math dude. 26 per 100,000 = 156 outta 600,000.

 

Gun suicides are gun deaths. Or are those people still alive? r maybe dead of something besides a bullet wound?

No?

Then they are gun deaths.

DERPITY DERP DERP.

 

You were answered you just didn';t like it.

 

Sure, but there have to be serious investigations of what divisions are actually useful and for what reasons.

Tobacco use isn't bad just for having caused smokers to die. It's also bad because it takes a huge toll on our healthcare for a variety of serious healthcare problems, it is traceable to damage to children, it impacts the health of others who are exposed, it is a disgusting imposition on the public who doesn't smoke, etc.

Auto death and injury is a GREAT example. We have the NTSB and others analyzing transportation accidents and death. We have regulation on auto manufacturers that covers pretty much every single piece of a car, we have laws covering how cars may be driven along with licensing to assure such are known, we have those who design our public roads to meet increasing standards of safety as studies illuminate how road design can improve death rates. AND, we have policing that works to see that these laws are followed.

We have extreme work on this for commercial air transportation, especially including for human travel.

In other words, we have clear examples of how to address public safety.

NONE of these examples involves taking away people's cars or airplanes.

I'm sure you see what I'm pointing to.

 

The extreme population differences mean that safety can only be measured on a per capita basis.

in fact, one might need other methods of comparison that don't involve simply counting the number dead - which is clearly the most useless method of comparing state death tolls.

 

Nope. No answer. You waffled, you weaseled, you juked and jived, but you didn't answer.

 

Thanks. Geez. I’m all for accuracy of information so I truly appreciate you catching my error!

 

dupe

 

That's not true. Every town or city will have an area that is risky to go through, high crime areas. Lower populated places are safer than highly populated, regardless of how statistics are manipulated. For instance, during our summer of love I didn't see one riot......I mean mostly peaceful protest, in Cut And Shoot Texas. The whole numbers will give you a much better idea how safe a place is rather than some equity manipulation of those numbers.

 

Yeh, I done screwed up!

 

It’s not the same thing, it’s not even in the same ball park. Suicide and gun violence are mikes apart, it you’d rather obfuscate the issues because you know that without inflated numbers you can’t scare people about guns. you don’t treat suicide issues the way you treat crime issues, have someone explain all of that, or go to a Ted talk.

 

Yes, lumping suicide with criminal use of guns is like lumping consensual sex in with rape.

 

Well posters keep going on about suicides not being included. Well suicides rates are also higher in Red states than Blue states:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm

So once again, the common link with tragedies and murders is living in a Red state

 

Could the common link be low income areas?