Gun Deaths Per Capita By State

Where gun deaths occur is not well known by most in America, I think.

We hear about blue state law enforcement and the benefits of civilians carrying guns.

But, here's what it actually looks like:



Do you have a better map?

Show me your result.

 

Did someone make the mistake of putting suicides in there? What about making a different color for thugs who murder each other?

 

Hi, Buri.

Why, if someone commits suicide using a gun, is that not a 'gun death'?

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

What does a "thug" look like?

 

It’s a death that isn’t a threat to the public. It’s a personal choice, the method is meaningless. If all the guns magically disappeared people still do it.

Why add those to the list if the list is designed to display the issue of gun crime?

 

if there’s a bunch standing around in a group, would you walk past them? If the answer is no, they’re probably thugs. People who appear to have very little impulse control and poor decision making skills.

 

Hi again.

I got it, finally.

Someone who commits suicide is not part of 'the public'.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

The map would be the same by color of thugs

Firearm death rate per 100,000 per race

State White- Black
Wyoming 26.7
New Mexico 25.6- 46.4
Alaska 20.6
Mississippi 20.2- 41.1
Oklahoma 20.1- 33.3
Montana 19.7
Nevada 19.7- 28.8
Arkansas 19 - 45.4
Alabama 18.6- 37
Idaho 17.6
Kentucky 17.4- 47.6
South Caro 17.3- 35.4
Missouri 16.4 - 73.7
Arizona 16.4- 29.9
Tennessee 16.1- 43.9
Texas 15.9- 25.2
Louisiana 15.4- 46.4
Colorado 14.8- 28
Georgia 14.7- 25.7
Kansas 14.2- 41.7
Oregon 13.5- 26.3
North Car 13.5 - 25.8
Florida 13.1- 24.9
Indiana 13- 49.8
Virginia 11.9- 24.3
Washington 11- 18.4
Ohio 10.3- 45
Iowa 10.1- 34.4
Nebraska 9.5- 23.4
Michigan 9.4- 42.1
Wisconsin 9.1- 46
Pennsylvania 9- 42.2
Delaware 8.8- 33.1
California 8- 27.1
Minnesota 7.6 - 21.5
Maryland 7.2- 27.6
Illinois 6- 53.7
New York 4- 14.8
Connecticut 4- 18.2
New Jersey 3.1- 17
Mass 2.6 - 11.9

 

Data from 2017 I believe (this was the source but it has a paywall; https://fortune.com/2018/03/20/gun-laws-gun-crimes-state-gun-regulations/) but should give a decent idea;


This article from 2021 also has a chart of gun death rates by state with suicide and homicide distinguished; https://abcnews.go.com/US/america-gun-violence-problem/story?id=79222948

 

Some people take the slogan “my body, my choice” to apply equally. Others use it selectively based on their personal opinions about drugs, suicide methods, abortion, vaccination etc.

 

Ah... the old, per capita BS... It sure makes the nations leading state for murder, CA, look like they are doing a bang up job... Did you know that more folks died in a month in Chicago alone than did in the state of Wyoming in a year? But who cares... You can continue to claim this metric means something meaningful, but it doesn't. The democratic cites are the nations most violent places. And yet, none of that is reflective of your desire to push yet another false narrative on this forum.

 

Its no secret the problem is worst in the South. If you listen to RW MSM you'd think its only California and New York, but I suppose they just can't help themselves

 

Hi, 557.

There are, these days, multiple meanings to words. There's the dictionary meaning, of course. Some of us still ascribe to this as our Baedeker. Then there's the meaning people ascribe to words when distorted through the lens of political/ideological/theological bias.

Happily, context often permits us to distinguish between them. In the OP, the map is clearly labeled 'Gun Death Rate.' Period.

'Nuf said.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Here are the top five.

26 California 8.8 per 100k 3,498
15 Texas 10.3 per 100k 2,993
19 Florida 9.7 per 100k 2,087
11 North Carolina 11.4 per 100k 1,192
24 Illinois 8.9 per 100k 1,137

The last number in the row represent total murders. If you further refine these numbers, most of these murders occurred exclusively in Democrat run cities.
Numbers for CA included in the link.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....les/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/california.xls

Numbers for TX
https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-texas

 

You are welcome to provide evidence the term “suicide” is subjective or has been changed based on politics etc.

Since suicide was the metric contained in your post and my post exclusively we must assume your strawman argument of total gun deaths in the context of my post is an intentional avoidance of the topic in question—suicide.

No worries. I understand the reluctance to address bodily autonomy. The fact remains, suicide is a legal use for firearms in the United States. If you don’t like it, you can advocate for re-criminalization of suicide….

 

not anymore. But it’s not a threat of violence, and not a threat to others.

 

yes, it does turn out the black thugs between 15 and 50 commit almost 54% of all the murders in America. That’s incredibly disproportionate, but we don’t see anyone addressing that ****er problem.

 

And the rate of firearm deaths by white people is much higher in red states than blue states. The common link is red states

 

Hi again, 557.

Suicide is unique in that the murderer and the victim are identical. There was, in Great Britain, an instance of a composer murdering a music critic. It was a suicide. The man, Mr. Philip Heseltine, was both.

With that out of the way, suicide is certainly a reasonable concern when it occurs within our society. So, for that matter, is any life cut short of a natural end. Suicide may be, as some have noted, an index of the stress which our society imposes upon its members. Anyhow, some ways of attempting suicide have a lower probability of being lethal [Ed.: Successful? Are those who attempt suicide and fail considered losers?] than others. From what I've read, firearms rank high on the lethality 'index'.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n un-shot.

 

Hi again, Buri.

Again, I got it. A person attempting to commit suicide with a firearm isn't presenting himself with a threat of violence.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

Well, except there are quite a few murder-suicides.

 

Hi, WhoDatPhan78!

Come join in the fun! There are murder-suicide attempts in which no one dies, murder-suicide attempts in which the murderer doesn't die, murder-suicide attempts in which an innocent bystander dies, and more! Failure to take each and every one into account leaves one open to the charge of favoritism or, worse yet, prejudice against those excluded!

Isn't political palaver exciting? The number of possible non-logical rabbit holes approaches Aleph 1. It's a surprise that Mr. Kurt Godel hasn't become the most demonized person among those who are seeking a 'them'.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

suicides are not a public safety concern that are addressed by law enforcement .

 

in most free nations, the society tries to deter people committing malum per se offenses by the threat of punishment. the surer the application of punishment is*, the more effective the deterrence. Now, if you deal with someone who is NOT deterred by certain punishment, it is almost impossible to pass a law that stops them. A kamikaze who wants to take others with him, can only be stopped by someone acting as he commits the crime. and gun banners want to make sure that won't happen


* my criminal law professor at law school had been a capital offense defender for the LA public defender's office before becoming a tenured Ivy law school professor. A study his office did (no I cannot find it it was in the late 70s) determined that the certainty of punishment was more effective in deterring crime than the severity. He noted that if every murderer would get 9 years in prison, that would deter other killers more than say (as he put it) burning one out of four at the stake)

 

Hi, Turtledude.

For your information, they do not rank high on the concerns of cosmologists, either. Ref: Cosmology Has Some Big Problems - Scientific American Blog Network

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.