A Loud GOP Minority Pledges to Make Trouble on Ukraine Military Aid

If we look beyond the congressional bluster, we are close to sidelining Russia as a viable counter force as well as damaging the value of Chinese friendship.
Given the possibility of a war with China, they only credible allies are Iran and Russia. Iran is weak. So if Russia is also weakened they won’t be able to threaten Western Europe so as to blunt our military efforts against China.

 

We should never spend a single penny concerning ourselves with the borders of some foreign Nation until we can manage to actually secure our own border.

How many walls worth of money have we pissed away in Ukraine of our tax dollars?

We should obstruct and stand in their way every single chance we get

 

You are misrepresenting what the article actually said, in the same post that quotes the article. The poll didn't say "52% are not in support of Ukraine" it said "52% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents do not think U.S. interests are at stake in Ukraine."

The fact that you deliberately misrepresented the poll kind of makes your other comments irrelevant.

"Orban wing" LOL!

 

I wonder if the 57% favor aid to Taiwan and South Korea?

 

Putin has had the high moral ground since this started, so it's only to be expected that the filthy congress would be against him.

 

sure, that's it

 

You want that response in general terms like "The Big Lie" , or do you need more specific cases like Dominion or Seth Rich and similar...

Once people convince themselves that it's ok to keep believing media even after they have been demonstrated to live off of disinformation like Fox, Breitbart, Alex Jones, .... and just about everything you see on MAGA-twitter, they're opening yourself to believe ANYTHING even when facts tell them otherwise. Those people just learn to deny reality. This is why so few Republicans understand what is happening in Ukraine and only believe what the MAGA-media tells them to believe. Ignoring the possible consequences that history has taught us may come of expansionist dictators.

I'm convinced that if they had Fox and Twitter in the late 1930s, at least 57% of Republicans would be complaining about the money spent providing any type of aid to the British and French. Which would have been a bit more understandable THEN. But to argue that today (knowing what happened back then) you need to be a big consumer of disinformation.

 

Didn't we make a boatload of money off Britain with the lend-lease Act?

 

I was referring to the actual thread topic. What disinformation do Republicans believe about Ukraine that they think that Ukraine is not a vital interest of the US?

 

It is claimed that Congress contains intelligent and well balanced people, and 99.8% of Congress voted in favor of the war in Afghanistan, even though there was no reason for it that made any sense, and the act of Congress that was written didn't make a whole bunch of sense either.

Congress is driven by greed and hardly ever makes any sense.

 

So was I.

 

The thread topic is about Dominion and Seth Rich?

 

A war between two corrupt Oligarchies, both sides of which have been bribing the Bidens.

Ukraine Admits Murdering "Quite A Few" Russian Civilians Who Back Putin And His Invasion

"The appropriate punishment can only be liquidation"

'A senior Ukrainian official has admitted that his country has assassinated "quite a few" Russian civilians who support Putin and his war to assert control of the Donbas region. In interviews first reported by The Times of London, Major General Kyrylo Budanov, who heads Ukraine's military intelligence service, also promised more attacks are to come. '

'"We've already successfully targeted quite a few people," said Budanov. He didn't name any of the victims, but said "there have been well-publicized cases everyone knows about, thanks to the media coverage."'

'Since the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, several prominent Russian supporters of the invasion -- and many innocent bystanders -- have been killed or wounded in the campaign.'

'One of the most prominent such attacks happened last August, when a car bomb killed journalist Darya Dugina -- in a possible attempt to kill her father, the political scientist-philosopher Aleksandr Dugin.'


Ukrainians Blew Her To Pieces In A Car Bomb.

'Ukraine's targeting of civilians doesn't merely violate vague "international norms" that Washington pretends to hold dear -- they are explicitly war crimes.'

 

Is that your expert opinion? If so, why should we accept your opinion as superior? I presume you have credentials to support your purported expertise.

 

The thread topic appeared to be about a majority of Republicans believing what they hear on their MAGA media. I'm submitting an explanation as to why it got to this point. You appear to be trying to dance around my explanation instead of addressing it. Looks to me like an endorsement. A reluctant one, maybe, but an endorsement nonetheless.

 

republican prefer 20+ year wars with boots on the ground

 

Since this is a forum in which virtually no one has verifiable credentials and yet everyone has an opinion, that seems an odd question. Do you think I shouldn't express an opinion on military logistics unless I have a certain type of credentials to establish my opinion as "expert?"

 

Well maybe if you could explain what information about Ukraine exactly Republicans are getting from "MAGA media" I might have a better reply.

 

It’s not a matter of “siding with Putin.” It’s a matter of thinking what’s in best interests of the United States. There should be a debate about that. I am not in favor of a blank check.

 

I thought that the U.S. Government got long term (99 year) leases to some British installations. I’m not sure if that has been a money maker.

 

I don't know for sure myself, but I recall a sum total of 1.3 billion US dollars, which would be a heck of lot of money these days as at the time it was measured in silver dollars.

 

2020 stolen election.

 

There are silver certificates in those days, but the government didn’t have enough silver dollars to redeem all the paper money in circulation. Most people, except eccentrics, like LaVere Redfield, didn’t want them. Redfield had over 300,000 silver dollars in his basement. Coin dealer had fun selling them in appropriately marked sealed holders for a few years.

 

Coin collecting is a strange thing. I always got my eye out for a Henning Nickel.

If you read the US constitution it say the congress has the power to "coin money" not to print it. The framers were well aware of the problem of printed currency always returning to the value of the paper it was printed on. Furthermore the constitution states "no state may... ...make anything other than gold or silver coin a legal tender of debt.

So I always wanted a Henning counterfeit nickel. It's as legitimate as any paper currency.

 

It's on the OP. The fact that you wrote it in bold appeared to indicate that was the topic of this thread. But we've been back and forth for about four of five posts and you're trying to get me to explain to you what the topic of the thread that YOU opened is.

So all you need to do is read your OP, read the response where I quoted the OP and, if that wasn't clear, the second to you where I explained my point in more detail ... and if you can come up with a better response than you have so far, then great. If not, then don't bother