A Loud GOP Minority Pledges to Make Trouble on Ukraine Military Aid

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  1. ButterBalls

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    So, they, follow my lead, DAAAANNNNNGGGG! Should I check my rigs/phone for virus's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    "I don't have to tell you who won the war... the artillery did."....Gen George S. Patton
     
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    The attitudes of the founding fathers toward paper were colored by the failure of the Continental Currency during the Revolutionary War. The Continental Congress did what many desperate governments have done through out history. They issued paper money to cover their debts and expenses and they did so until it became worthless. It ruined everyone’s perception of paper money. Here is an example of Continental currency.

    Cont $50 F.jpg Cont $50 B.jpg

    Until the Civil War, the Federal Government did not issue any paper money, except during the War of 1812, which was virtually all redeemed. State a chartered banks issued the paper money, and system was a mess. Almost all paper money traded at a discount, and some of it was worthless.

    That changed during the Civil War. At first the Union tired to cover the war expenses with gold, but that quickly failed. The Union issued paper to cover its debts although it was always mindful of the risks.

    After the war parity between gold and paper money was not reached until the late 1870s. After that people could redeem their paper money in gold, but they found paper easier and more convenient to carry and use. That has continued until.

    If you want me to continue, I can, but this post is already too long.
     
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    Why are Republicans pro appeasement that leads to suffering and ultimately war?
     
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    Because the founders of this country warned us about entangling alliances. Ukraine is no concern to us and neither is Russia unless we provoke them. It simply isn't our fight. Ukraine was part of Russia before and European countries have changed hands with every war in Europe. Don't worry about it.

    Right now you got our government handing knives to one of two kids duking it out in the street, and the guy you did not arm is loaded with nuclear bombs already. Not a street smart move.
     
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    I'm enjoying the history JohnHamilton but I think we are too far off topic already. A paper note is a bill of credit. It is not money and if not redeemable for lawful money it is merely the ghost of money.
     
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    Economists would not agree with now. Most money is not even paper. It's at least 80% bookkeeping entries.

    The issue is not what money is made of; it's how much money is in circulation.
     
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    Yep, that's what the Federal Reserve bank controls. Not the supply so much as the interest rate which has the same effect seeing as how the system is set up so that more money must be borrowed annually. In this way the economy can operate without economic depression, just a parabolic race to the top. Until the system crashes altogether. Then we might see a depression that will make the 1930's look like a just a little dip.

    In a natural economy with natural money the economy would ebb and flood like the tides. There would be periods of saving followed by periods of spending when the next best new product comes along. What we got now is just spend, spend, spend like there is no tomorrow. But dusk is closing in on us and the dawn will arrive.
     
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    Thank you tRaitor tRump and Ronald Reagan the originator of exponential debt growth.
     
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    it's not just about winning, it's about making it hard and not worth it for Russia to continue expanding

    think RED DAWN
     
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    Red Dawn?
     
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    Yeah, Red Dawn. It's a fictional movie about how effective an "unregulated" millita can be.
     
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    Its no secret most Republicans want Russia to win, which is also why Putin and other commies are all-in supporting Trump in 2024 elections. Heavy Trump-Russia collusion is almost certain.
     
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    What happened to the big beautiful wall Trump built?
     
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    Oh you are missing the “ King of all Debt” G.W Bush. His war on terror, war in Afghanistan and War in Iraq costing US 9 trillion dollar and counting.

    One third of US debt is GW Bush war. Keep in mind all the people who worry about the US Debt voted for Bush twice.
     
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    It's rusting away in storage to the tune of $130,000 a day with security. Thank Uncle Biden.
     
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    Correct but, I was pointing out the master of trickle down-voodoo economics, Ronny Reagan, is the root cause of our out of hand debt growth. And, tRaitor tRump copied him with Mitch McConnell’s version of trickle down, voodoo 2.0
     
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    I know the movie, I just don't see why @FreshAir thought it had anything to do with this topic.
     
  19. Lil Mike

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    A brand new conspiracy theory for 2024!
     
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    Nope. Just my prediction of the near future.

    Common sense mandates that Russia would support any candidate in 2024 who is likely to stop helping Ukraine.
     
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  21. Lil Mike

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    Well you also said "Its no secret most Republicans want Russia to win." I'm wondering where that open secret came from? I think it's it's simply observing reality that most likely Russia is going to win. That's not cheering for Russia, that's just an observation comparing their relative force levels.
     
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    Read your own OP in order to stop wondering.
     
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    It didn't say that. Since you imagined it did, I'm not sure how trustworthy your pronouncements are.
     
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    Bookkeeping does not create money. Most money is based on intrinsic value, not a hard value. The intrinsic value is based on the anticipated value of what something is worth. the hard value is what you have in your accounts. All bookkeeping does is keep track of what goes in and out to balance the books based on assets equals liabilities plus equity.
     

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