Time to Get Real About Ukraine

Yes, and we are experiencing an increasing number of laws here in the West (pretty much all of it as far as I can see) that are just Fascist as that.

 

The CIA (and similar fake intel organizations in other Western nations) are spinning the wheel of disinformation and misinformation to all of us. I even remember the day it was born in my country. I could hardly believe my ears!

 

". . . . In Soviet times, there was a chilling word for ratting on fellow citizens: stuchat, meaning to knock, evoking thoughts of a sly citizen knocking on a police officer’s door to make a report. The shorthand gesture to convey “Be careful, the walls have ears,” was a silent knocking motion.

In contemporary Russia, most reports appear to be made by “patriots” who see themselves as guardians of their motherland, according to Alexandra Arkhipova, a social anthropologist who is compiling a study of the subject — after being denounced herself last year, for comments she made on the Netherlands-based independent Russian television channel Dozhd. . . . ."

 

Golly! If one person said it on Netherlands-based independent Russian television channel then it just has to be true! There is no treacherous relation between the two stories (Sovjet and Contemporary Russia), that is to say, his only worthy comment is the "before and after" nickname for ratting on citizens. I have been reported to the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA more times than I can count from members of various Amerian-based discussion forums (such as this one for example). We used to call them snitches but now they are called Paid Shills. Then there's the Hasbara ...... You are being duped into thinking that "ratting" on fellow citizens is a "chilling" practice that isn't used in the West. Believe you me, it's rampant, particularly in the US. And funny ain't it - they are called "Patriots" too!

 

the actions for which they were punished go well beyond criticism

 

Yes! Let's do that! MY PREDICTION:

Ukraine will be mercilessly defeated. It will lose. Zelinsky's wife will divorce him quicker than two shakes of a lamb's tail and he will come under enormous criticism from the Ukrainians for "waging a senseless war" and for having clandestine bisexual liaisons and so he will retire to Osh Gosh, Wisconsin or Muleshoe, Texas to be forgotten till he dies of bunion complications, AIDS, or consumption.

The Donbas population will be offered the choice of remaining as part of Ukraine, becoming part of the Russian Federation, or independent. They'll probably choose independence but strengthen their ties with Moscow. Donbas will become a popular tourist sight where thousands of Ukraini holiday-makers will flock but after 15 or 20 years drunken Russian, Ukraini, and English tourists will get into so many fistfights that the place will lose its luster and have to go back to relying on industry. If that happens the population might choose to join the Russian Federation.

Ukraine itself will continue its corrupt existence and the cities will quickly crumble compelling its youth to move to Donbas to work in the sex industry so we'll take them into the EU and go broke trying to "fix it".

Mark my words.

 

". . . Arkhipova and research colleagues have identified more than 5,500 cases of denunciations.

A St. Petersburg mother, for example, identified in police documents as E. P Kalacheva, thought she was protecting her child from “moral damage” when she reported posters near a play area depicting Ukrainian apartments destroyed by Russian forces with the words, “And children?” As a result, a third-year university student was charged with discrediting the military. . . . "

 

WorldBusiness Insider
Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut say fighting regular Russian troops will be 'not as hard' as fighting Wagner troops because they're inexperienced

 

Golly! What a revelation! Who would have thought fighting against inexperienced soldiers is easier than fighting against experienced ones? It must have been a senior officer who figured that out! I guess WorldBusiness "Insider" is rolling their thumbs with nothing to report today. But seriously .... "Insider"? Yeah, that's some in-depth, insider news, eh? Did they have to smuggle it out of the country for fear of death?

 

The debate goes on .....

 

Dude I live in Texas also and @Vitaliy is speaking way above your head. If Pedo Joe Biden carved Texas out of the US and then let Mexicans genocide the whites in Texas, as well as made the whites speak Spanish and a whole host of other **** you wouldn't like, then you'd change your ****ing tune.

 

More likely the 1916 border coming again.

 

True.

That would change anybody's ****ing tune.

 

Except for the vast majority of Americans that couldn't point to "the ukraine" on a map a year and a half ago. They are so dumb that they can't even get the connection of "the" ukraine. Of course the reason why it's still referred to as "the ukraine" is because it was always referred to as "the ukraine" which literally translates to "the borderlands" of Russia.

Americans are sorely illiterate when it comes to European history. Fantasy as the Russian language comes from ukrainian or that ukraine existed before Russia.....just dumbass stuff.

 

Good point.

That it is so I knew but why it is so I didn't know. I'll remember that. Thank you.

They are even illiterate about modern-day Europe. I can tell you stories that'll keep you either laughing or crying for an hour. Did you know that Zürich is the capital city of Sweden? Jesus, Zürich isn't the capital city of any country! They'll even argue with me about it despite the fact that I am from Sweden.

Yep!

 

Wannabee redneck and person, who's only argument is to write phrase as "childish" or give label "CIA disinformation" to everything, what did not fit in Putin's fascist regime propaganda, are talking about how illiterate are 300 000 000 people, who they don't even know. A lot of idiots think, that they on fact are very smart and can have an expert opinion on everything.

 

So, that's all you see, huh? I don't know man but I see a whole more than that in these pages and to tell you the truth most of it is backed with either facts or very credible opinions which is something sorely lacking in the uh ..... ummmm .... you know .... the people who claim otherwise.

 

Russian forces have been degraded by inept leadership and effective Ukrainian strategy and tactics. This will show increasingly on the battlefield.

 

The key to victory in Ukraine? Taking the long view.
Opinion by the Editorial Board
". . . Ukraine’s fight is for core Western values — the right to join the family of democratic, pluralistic and tolerant nations, no matter how anathema that is to a retrograde dictator bent on conquest."

 

Yeah, maybe the Nokrainiums will show their leadership and strategy skills. Up till now, they've only been faking their uselessness to throw us off-balance once they get serious.

 

Sorry, but fantasies cannot substitute for battlefield success.

 

Lip service never won a battle let alone a war. Nokrainium is and has been the most corrupt nation in Europe since the end of the cold war. The only 'country' that comes close is Transnistrien.

 

Remember that as the days go on.

 

Ukraine has indeed had difficulties, largely because of Russian influence and meddling. Ukraine's aspiration is to join with the democracies of the West. And the Ukrainians certainly have the right to pursue their aspirations without interference from Russia.

 

"I propose to fight it out on this line if it takes all summer." --U.S. Grant