Time to Get Real About Ukraine

They're just blowing smoke. When the heat gets to be too much for them they drop out of sight and pop up on some other thread and start it all over again. Their only joy in life is to upset good people but it's slim pickings because no one is falling for it.

 

And I told you I don't clear as a bell

 

Up to you! They're your chosen side

 

And I support them in other ways.

 

Ya I do too! We all do, doesn't mean I support them or the Russians..

 

I don't know why you wouldn't support the Ukrainians, though. They're fighting to repel a fascist invader and conqueror to protect freedom and liberty, values that conservatives in this country used to hold before they drifted more towards fascism themselves.

 

Because, like Russia, Ukraine is also a corrupt nation.
ukraine history of corruption - Search (bing.com)

We Americans deal with corruptions ourselves! No need to start financing it globally, just my opinion..

 

Russia calls for Lindsey Graham’s assassination after controversial comments about ‘dying Russians’
Head of Russia’s RT reacts with anger over comments made by US Senator that have been taken out of context

Russian government officials and state media called for Lindsey Graham’s assassination this weekend after a video of his comments to Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky was edited to make it look like he made a disparaging comment about killing Russians.

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The head of state news channel RT, Margarita Simonyan, referred to a Soviet operative famous for his involvement in the assassination of Leon Trotsky, Pavel Sudoplatov, saying: “If Lady Graham really said that the money for the killing of Russians is the best money the US ever spent... I hope that in our country, the sons or grandchildren of Sudoplatov are alive, his pupils, or the descendants of his pupils. It’s not even hard. We have his address.”

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Mr Graham later told Reuters: “It has been a good investment by the United States to help liberate Ukraine from Russian war criminals… Mr Medvedev, if you want Russians to stop dying in Ukraine, withdraw. Stop the invasion. Stop the war crimes. The truth is that you and Putin could care less about Russian soldiers.”

... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...m-assassination-zelensky-russia-b2347561.html​

When "Lady Graham" is right, he is right. Ukraine is a great investment for us and for all in the free world, because it is an investment in protecting that freedom and stopping the next Hitler in his bloody tracks.

 

We Americans know that "corruption" can't be plural.

As for corruption in Ukraine, that is something that they and many other former Soviet satellites are contending with. We are not financing corruption by helping Ukraine resist this invasion, however. Our aid comes with requirements and expectations that the corruption will continue to be dealt with.

 

Same , different day. Our resident 'projection' expert. The only fascists are in the D party and those ****ing nazis in ukraine. Seems it was obvious until the US ministry of truth gave everyone their new marching orders after February, 2022.

 

Oh my!

 

You seem to know their corrupt then in the same breath defend it and condone financing it I know we all joke around about our respective BuBBLES, but you sir, well, you Sir

 

Fact is that Muscovy invests heavily into influencing operations, known at least in Soviet times as "Active Measures." The internet has made this far easier and evidently far more effective for them, too. Right now, they really want us to stop supporting Ukraine in this conflict. If we do that, the naZis will have a much easier time taking Ukraine.

The way they are trying to go about this is by spreading the kind of lies and propaganda that you are posting right now, this crap about corruption in Ukraine. They want us to think that any aid given to Ukraine is wasted and not going to Ukrainian defense, and that they will lose this war either way. And it seems that this is what you want.

 

You have been reposting the same FAB photoshops for the last 15 months. Get new material.

 

You and @Vitaliy? I tell ya, I'm damn impressed.

 

Kievan Rus predates both Ukraine and Muscovy. They and Belarus emerged from it.

Modern Muscovy has no claim over Ukraine.

 

Look, let's go with they are and were just as guilty of corruption as Russia and be done with it..

As for Ukraine's contribution to world exports, pffffffffffffffffff! Not even measurable, and hardly worth all the tax dollars we have invested in them! If they were to disappear overnight it wouldn't even make a ripple worldwide!

We certainly don't need corn from them looks to me like NATO and all those paying a very small tribute to war should be kicking in a lil more!

I know fear mongering is probably the biggest export Ukraine is exporting to the DNC, and the only reason it's so valuable is that their base consumes and digests all of it The other nations, sit back and watch while the U.S. pisses away much needed tax dollars, fight over raising U.S. debt, care very little for U.S. infrastructure and NO CONCERN to threats of millions of Americans SS and welfare at risk because of excessive spending on bullshit like Ukraine! In fact, it seems clear that even our own brothers and sisters care very little about the future of the U.S. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Sorta like Russia erecting statues of Stalin again or better yet the current blood thirsty and brutal dictator Putin.

 

If you think that's a dodge then we have little in common. We are not mercenaries who fight only for material gain. We fight in defense of our principles and support those who also fight in defense of those same principles.

 

That was depressing to read Principles? But I suppose, a corrupt party shares the same fleas as their pack

2022 Corruption Perceptions Index: Explore the… - Transparency.org

Btw, the U.S. isn't fight jack squat We are funding a proxy war and spending our children's treasure, I'm sure some are very pleased with that reality

 

Fake vets apparently can't goggle headlines. All there, none fake. Sorry not sorry

 

Sure, Bill, sure. Happy memorial day even if it isn't memorial day where you live.

 

I try to please as many and as often as possible.

 

Golly, you mean a whole bunch of Africa depends on Ukraine for food! You don't suppose they will be the last ones fed when the wheat dries up, do you?

Score one for Global Government- famine and starvation in Africa.

 

Yes, principles. The amount of money spent has been insignificant. The money is only complained about by those seeking a coward's exit.
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
― John F. Kennedy