Judge warns Trump: ‘Inflammatory’ statements about election case could speed trial

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  1. 19Crib

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    Ben told me that himself in the bar after a round of golf.
     
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    Consider the possibility that the left's guy DID steal the election, and the rights guy called him for it.
    Now consider that evidence is showing us that the left's guy is actually at the heart of a corrupt crime family, using the position of his office and taxpayer dollars to extort bribes from foreign interests to benefit his own family, and that this has been common practice.

    Does that tell you that the left's guy is too moral and honorable to steal the election-
    Or that stealing it would be the path he would most likely have chosen in the first place?

    I have begun to wonder how much manure the left will swallow before they can identify it for what it is.
     
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    No. Not anything. There's limits.

    But if he's going to jeopardize the integrity of the trial in public, it is well within the rights of the judge to speed it up to hold the integrity together.
     
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    All you have to do is be the 1st ever to show this stolen election happened with credible evidence.
     
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    What leaks?
     
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    there is a difference between possible and probable. Anything is possible, but to prove something it has to be probable at least.

    With 63 lawsuits, none, zilch, zero, ever proved the election was stolen. An It professional proved that Mike Lindell's theory was incorrect and won the $5 million challenge. Mile Lindell does not have the money now to pay him, but he won anyway. And thus, so far, you are not even at possible.
     
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    Sorry, I don’t think my imagination is as vivid as yours. I prefer to stick with reality anyway.
     
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    If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumps....
     
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    Horse pucky. We're past possible to highly probable. Something happening and proving it legally are very different things. Al Capone ran a crime mob for a long time and was guilty of many kinds of crimes- but the only thing they could prove in court was tax evasion. We are finding a snowstorm of evidence that Biden is the key person in what looks like a crime family. The evidence has gone from possible to undeniable. The money is being followed, the bribes total about $30 million so far and there's a lot more coming. How much proof does it take before you can quit denying it?

    It's kind of like religion. They can't prove god exists to the satisfaction of the doubters, and the doubters can't prove he doesn't. But this isn't religion, and the question is not the existence of proof to the extent of being beyond or to legal definitions, it's what people can't help but know, whether they will admit it or not.

    Funny how you think the failure to prove the obvious to legal standards means it didn't happen. You might be surprised to know that a verdict of "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence, just that the proof on hand wasn't sufficient to convict.
     
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    Reality is that so far about $30M in bribe money has been traced as flowing to the Biden family through about 20 shell corporations. Stick to that, and watch it grow.
    Ask yourself how that and "didn't happen because it's not been proven" can fit in the same box.
     
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    Nothing has been proven probable. Not one single lawsuit has proven that. You even had a Trump Administration official from the head of the CISA come out and specifically state that this was the most secured election in our history. Even the Arizona audits, who printed out every voter ballot and counted them manually confirmed Biden won by 10000 or more votes. And that was done four times, all with the same results.
     
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    Not as funny as those who think something happened, but can't ever offer viable evidtof said event.
    Wilful ignorance I think is the term often used.
     
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    Can't believe there's grown educated adults who still buy the stolen election nonsense.
     
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    I get it, the actual topic isn’t convenient for you
     
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    Some people, from my experience, will believe anything. I know some people still believe in witches, the Lock Ness Monster, real Vulcans are among us, and so forth. And yes, some people still believe the election was stolen despite no evidence to the contrary.
     
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    Never is and always leads to top heavy foot stomping and flailing around not being able to sooth the ego :).
     
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    I'm OK with the Vulcan conspiracy :). Live long and prosper!
     
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    For me, I believe the Klingon Conspiracy and with that, I say,. "Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam." LOL
     
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    The Judge is clearly and utterly bias'd against the defendant, and has already demonstrated this level of bias. The only thing she even remotely pushed against the prosecution, was that Trump could review the information without his team present. Which is obvious, to say the least. How would the prosecution have enabled such an order?

    “Even arguably ambiguous statements from parties or their counsel, if they can be reasonably interpreted to intimidate witnesses or to prejudice potential jurors, can threaten the process,”

    Like, WTH is this? She later complained about overly broad, without recognizing that her own comments are overly broad. The Defense would later bring up the problem of her statements, which she could only refute with a stupid statement that his defense is in the courtroom, not the internet.

    Anyone can quote/unquote 'reasonably' interpret' anything, indeed that was the whole point of being flagged to begin with. And it goes back to the total bias that the judge suffers in this case.
     
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    I realize you would like to limit your conversations to the preferred demonization of Trump, and ignore the malice and corruption of the people who fear his values so much they will do anything to destroy him.

    Wonder if you even realize that's what you support.
     
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    Remember the old saying about when god gave out things? And some missed their appointments? I think you would have to have missed something if you can for a fleeting moment tell yourself that 2020 was a legitimate election. The guy who believes that probably owns a lot iconic property too, like the Brooklyn Bridge, the Fountain of youth, the Stairway to heaven, keys and title to his Condo there.
    Anything like that in your portfolio?

    Printing and counting all the votes. Of course they did. All the illegitimate votes got counted with the rest. That IS the way you fix elections.
     
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    You mean stay on topic and not distracted by conspiracy theories of whatabout? Yah
     
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    There is no misconduct from this judge. She's treating Trump just as any other defendant is treated. The 1st Amendment does not apply. She has a duty to caution him and his legal team, and is fully within her rights to revoke bail if he continues to shoot his mouth off about the particulars of the case(s) against him, and the witnesses involved.
     
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    This:

    “Even arguably ambiguous statements from parties or their counsel, if they can be reasonably interpreted to intimidate witnesses or to prejudice potential jurors, can threaten the process,”

    Is about as reasonable and unbiased as a judge can get, given the following:.

    Recall that Trump posted:

    "If you come after me, I will come after you'.

    That's clearly a threat meant for anyone who does anything to him that he doesn't like.

    such as the work of a prosecutor, the rulings of a judge, the vote to convict by a juror, etc.

    And Trump has a history of doing this, such as his defamations against Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman.
     
  25. AmericanNationalist

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    Words of criticism aren't intimidating. There's nothing specific to be intimidated by. Unless they are intimidated by the defendant himself, in which case why hold a trial to begin with?

    Defendant is going to proclaim his innocence, and possibly attack the prosecution's arguments. That's the burden of being a prosecutor. If they can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
     

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