Thirteen-year-old girl is forced to give birth under Mississippi abortion ban

Where the HELL did you get that crazy idea?

Republicans have worked nonstop for increasingly draconian abortion law.

The very idea that they would stop at 20 weeks is literally ridiculous. They haven't stopped at ANYTHING.

 

Because it doesn’t provide any protection for individuals seeking an abortion prior to 20 weeks in areas where it has been banned.

Why should democrats agree to nationwide restrictions on abortions if republicans will not agree to nationwide exceptions on abortions prior to 20 weeks?

 

Late term abortions are rare and limited almost entirely to cases where there are serious problems - either with the woman or with the fetus.

The problem with this law is that it leaves healthcare judgement to PROSECUTORS, not the woman and her doctor.

We're not having some sort of pandemic of women carrying fetuses nearly to birth and then getting abortions without medical justification.

You just don't have evidence of a problem that government must solve.

 

more likely upset about the demise of two woke mopes who are less likely to vote for Biden in 2024

 

none of that ever objectively harmed you and much of it was drummed up after the 2020 election.

 

many people don't consider abortion "health care" but the fact is-the law allows abortion in the case of rape.

 

So you are saying that the dems would rather just have the states super restrictive laws rather than the nationwide reasonable law and then work together to fix the little problems? I don't think so. They didn't want to get rid of the argument so that they could still run on the platform of the evil republicans and get donors to fund their campaigns.

 

Are you suggesting that you don't have the ability to look it up?

 

BS, it leaves everything up to the woman and her doctor until 20 weeks and then up to the doctor to provide evidence that it is necessary for the health of the woman. Anyway, if it is rare and so limited like you say, it wouldn't have been a problem.

 

The reason that is BS is that it's been shown that it isn't actually available.

The OP case is an example. The parents and the girl in the OP case wanted an abortion.

They were denied.

 

You didn't counter anything I said.

 

My personal and anecdotal consequence/evidence is irrelevant to and has no bearing on Trump's four indictments of almost 90 felony counts.

 

Public opinion has no import in medical technology, medicine, and medical practice. Abortion is a medical procedure and falls under the purview of health care.

 

Right.

But it is explicitly the limitation on the power and control of the federal government.

 

To my knowledge the bill proposed wouldn’t have gotten rid of the super restrictive provisions in red states it would have only banned abortion beyond 20 weeks in all states.

Are you saying this bill would have forced republican states to allow all abortions prior to 20 weeks?

 

Anything a state can’t take away isn’t a right.

 

You better make that more clear.

Are you seriously unaware of the Republican changes to law since the Roe ruling?

Do you think that the Republican efforts to make abortion more impossible to get didn't begin long before that recent ruling?

Are you aware that the majority of Americans are NOT in favor of these laws against abortion?

 

Wait.

What?

What does that double negative have to do with my point?

 

It's not that explicit. There are limitations to the rights listed. There are rights implied by the rights listed.

 

The 10th amendment is pretty straight forward.

 

The 20 week rule doesn't mean anything. It just says no abortions after 20 weeks. It doesn't stop states from enacting a 6 week ban.

 

You are dodging the clear facts of the OP case.

Why was the rape victim in the OP refused an abortion?

She and her parents WANTED an abortion. She was raped.

YOU say an abortion was available. Mississippi said NO.

 

No. That the bill said no abortions after 20 weeks. It did not say abortions up to 20 weeks. A state would still be allowed to enact stricter laws. Republicans crafted it to trick people, but dems didn't fall for it.

 

There are reasons for abortions after 20 weeks.

The 20 week rule means it is up to prosecutors and legislators whether doctors can address healthcare issues.

Since doctors can not come anywhere close to treatments that could lose them their careers in medicine, the healthcare damage is FAR larger that the law says, as healthcare issues always come in terms of measures of health risk that can be challenged.

Doctors have to deny care if it comes within a country mile of putting their licenses at risk.

 

That's obvious, but also not the point.