Slaves were maids and stoop labor, cotton pickers, none were a BLACKSMITHS!!

It's downright disgraceful how Floridian children must suffer under the new education rules instituted by dirt-bag DeSantis, wherein teachers are mandated to assert that slaves derived life skill benefits from their enslavement. DeSantis and his cronies consistently voice the example: blacksmithing. That is total nonsense! No slave was ever employed blacksmithing - unh-uh. That occupation was strictly a white folks' job. Get real out there any of you who buy into the dirty lies that today's Republicans spout ad nauseum. Another example being the lying assertion by many Republicans that Democrats espouse the legality of abortion "right up to the moment of birth". That has zero basis in fact! Who here can cite any such basis, I challenge! Most GOP narrative has no basis in fact. That is especially true of their claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen. Ooh I detest today's conservative party! Trump and the entirety of his cohorts should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

 

Wrong just like most generalizations.

 

You are perfectly entitled to voice your opinion, regardless of how incorrect it is. Uh hey, I wasn't so much voicing generalizations as I was voicing specifics about whether any slave held the occupation blacksmith; and about whether Democrats want to legalize abortion "right up to the moment of birth"; and about whether the 2020 presidential election was stolen. Those are very specific matters and I would have preferred you had addressed those specific matters, rather then simply state a well-used cliché/platitude.

 

Slaves were never employed....

 

Do you perhaps have any evidence that no slaves were ever blacksmiths? I suppose they also didn't build the shelters they lived in.

 

Can you supply evidence for your claim? I’ll let you go first then I’ll show you are either uninformed or lying.

 

Enslaved Africans brought an ancient crafts tradition of ironworking with them to the New World and became highly skilled blacksmiths on Louisiana plantations. Blacksmithing represented just one of the early skills called for on the frontier and the agricultural society that developed from it.
https://www.nsula.edu/regionalfolklife/civilwartocivilrights/16SamWilliams.html#:~:text=Enslaved Africans brought an ancient,society that developed from it.

What I find insulting to one's intelligence is the idea southern slave holders did anything regarding slaves without the first priority being benefiting themselves. Whatever benefit a slave may have derived from a job performed on the plantations was a distant after thought. Because.........you know.......they were effing slaves forced in to slave labor under penalty of torture or death. Their future was of no concern to their "masters."

 

Who is asserting otherwise?

 

Also wrong. Some of them earned money when they were loaned out by their masters to other parties. One of the truly remarkable things was that a relatively limited number were able to save enough money to buy their freedom.

What is wrong with pointing out resourcefulness of some enslaved people? It doesn’t fit the progressive agenda.

 

This claim is verifiably incorrect. I can provide proof if you need it, but it looks like others have already done so.

 

Maids?

Guess why. Domestic skills are marketable skills.

 

Please be so kind as to support your assertion with a link.

 

Actually while slaves performed a lot of menial tasks more than a few learned trades like blacksmith because there were never enough to go around and it took a lot of that sort of work to keep a plantation up and running especially during harvest time.

 

Google “slaves hired out.”

 

They were still slaves as black smiths or more commonly black smiths assistants. Pre Civil War Atlanta was host to a fair number of black freemen entrepreneurs.

 

Enslaved blacksmith Solomon Williams created decorative grave markers for family and friends at Oakland Plantation. Though these artistic expressions were forged under oppression, Solomon, like many enslaved blacksmiths of his time, wove together African and Christian symbols into his work, further melding the cultures around him into something more.

Solomon Williams | Cane River National Heritage Area (canerivernha.org)

 

You really have no clue, do you. There are plenty of cases where slaves learned trades such as blacksmithing, carpentry, etc. Which doesn't detract that a large majority were field hands or the low skill jobs.

 

Sure, they often built their shelters but I loathe DeSantis and his cohorts consistently using the blacksmithing claim, which I surmise is patently false. Oh, I'm sure there was a slave or two who assisted the plantation's blacksmith, but that's all.

 

Okay.
What were the dynamics of slave hiring?
“At first glance, slave hiring would seem to have bolstered the system of slavery, and in many ways it did,” Jonathan D. Martin explained in the introduction to his book, Divided Mastery: Slave Hiring in the South1. “For one thing, hiring ushered many more white Southerners into the slaveholding ranks than would have been possible if the costly slave pens had been the only place to acquire slave labor.”

In other words, it wasn’t just wealthy plantation owners who were able to exploit and profit from slavery. With slave hiring, the system became more visible and beneficial to a wider number of white Southerners and as a result, slavery became more deeply imbedded in the social infrastructure.
https://about.proquest.com/en/blog/2019/slave-hiring-the-dynamics-of-american-slavery/

https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/hiring-out-of-the-enslaved/

I see no reference to slaves being paid. Slave owners received compensation for hiring out their slaves. If you have information to the contrary please post it.

 

Really, when slaves were hired out the money went to the man who owned the slave not to the slave!

In the years before the American Civil War, enslaved African Americans sometimes worked away from the property of their enslavers. At times, they labored for other enslavers or for people who owned no enslaved people and were too poor to purchase enslaved laborers outright. Enslavers found that in some situations, they could make more money by contracting their enslaved laborers to others rather than having them work on their own property. The “hiring out” system of contracting enslaved labor became increasingly popular in the South during the 1850s

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/ul...nslavers found that in some,Grant lived in St.

 

Surmise? Surely you jest.

 

What you think you are sure of is irrelevant. Definitive claims require definitive evidence.

 

it's definitely getting crazy

 

There were indeed enslaved blacks that were blacksmiths.

LINK: Blacksmithing at Monticello | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello

LINK: Antebellum slavery (pbs.org)

It is well documented that there were blacks who were enslaved and were blacksmiths. And have fun trying to prove that the links I provided are "Republican", much less "Republican lies".

As for abortion "right up to the moment of birth", that's actually not false. The falsity lies through omission. Democrats do indeed support abortion up to the moment of birth...to save the life of the mother. Republicans leave that part out.

 

I don't think anyone has ever claimed otherwise? Perhaps you can give some examples of people suggesting such?