Activist files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race in Michigan

But 'aid and comfort to' there is evidence for that, in my opinion

 

That’s way too much linear logic Pat.

 

there is no requirement for a conviction in order to implement sec. 3 of the 14th amendment.

 

None of that at all is evidence that Trump called for an insurrection or les it lol. Even your own argument shows leaps and bounds from l fact to fallacy to motive assignment to conclusion.

 

It isn’t logic lol. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Trump giving an opinion doesn’t make him responsible for the protest.

I’d that were the case Dems have a lot of explaining to do for the considerable amount of left wing violence over the last several years.

 

First of all people are responsible for their own actions. But that doesn’t relieve TRAITOR tRump from his responsibility of implementing the Capitol attack by calling his MAGrates to DC and, holding an inflammatory rally to fire them up.

And, BTW, most of the violence during the Floyd protests was caused by Right Wing anarchists infiltrating the peaceful protests and turning them into riots.

 

Not as written, but I do understand why many think it should be required, otherwise who makes that determination?

 

The State Secretary’s of State.

Traditionally.

That’s why Rafenspurger and Bower were so pivotal and were leaned on by TRAITOR tRump in the last election. The Secretary of State, at the State level, is in charge of elections. If they had caved TRAITOR tRump’s tyranny might have been successful.

 

He didn’t implement a capital attack. He didn’t hold an inflammatory rally.

Floyd rioting was purely far left blm terrorists.

 

And the moon is made of green cheese.

 

Nonsensical LW slogans and crybaby whining; partisanship substituting for facts. Illogical crapola. capiche?

 

So then we get in a position where candidates are only gonna be on the ballot in states where their party controls that office.

 

Hopefully not. Before 2020 and TRAITOR tRump … I don’t think that thought would have even crossed anyones mind.

And there have always been people from the various parties to make sure elections are handled fairly; from who gets on the ballot, how ballots are put out to voters, how they are received back in and counted. There are many different eyes from the various political interests … watching.

That’s why TRAITOR tRump’s accusations of a “rigged” election are so ludicrous. To game an election on a scale that made a difference would be impossible. Hell even when, only, two Republicans in a couple different districts tried to vote fraudulently they were caught. We have a very sound election system because of distrust between the several different parties. All with the right and responsibility to be vigilant.

IF and, in TRAITOR tRump’s case, when a Sec State refuses to put him on their ballot because of the 14th section 3, it will end up in front of the Supreme’s, IF, the State Supreme Court doesn’t intervene first. The Sec State might prevail but not without a court fight. The whole system is checks and balances up and down the line.

 

If you wanna believe that, that’s fine. It’s not the first crazy theory the left has come up with. And won’t be the last.

 

We did last time... it didn't seem to matter to the loser and his enablers...

 

That seems to be the general consensus... Somebody still needs to get a case to the SCOTUS ASAP, so the R's can start planning for an alternate candidate...

 

That simply doesn't make any sense. Like not even a little bit.

So... who determines is the accusation is valid?

 

Get a conviction!

 

But you beat him, right? So what's the problem with just doing it again?

Or is there some kind of nagging lingering doubt that the whole thing was really on the up and up?

 

That isn’t the point is it? Are you saying he’s guilty before he’s even had his day in court? No of course not, but a preponderance of evidence convinced a grand jury, of his peers, that a crime had been committed.

So, now he’s been brought up on charges and there WILL be a trial to determine if he committed the crimeS he’s been accused of. That’s how our judicial system works. But since so much of what happened, that got him charged, happened in full view of the public, it’s important that he was charged and tried; even though he was a former President. Or, BECAUSE he was a former President. So that ALL Americans know that OUR commitment that “no one is above the law” is true.

It’s up to the prosecution to prove he’s guilty. He can sit in court and hope they fail or defend himself; he’s chosen the latter. But, whether he’s found guilty or not the process is vital IF we are to remain a country of laws, governed BY THE PEOPLE.

What can’t be allowed is to acquit him in the court of public opinion; because a fraction of Americans, his supporters, say so.

 

Because OUR Constitution says that if you hold national office and go on to violate your oath of office by causing an insurrection or by giving aid and comfort to those that did, you can NEVER get a chance to do it again by holding office again. TRAITOR tRump has disqualified HIMSELF from holding office. It’s just that simple.

 

Never had a doubt in the first place, so really impossible to have lingering doubt.

The problem with just doing it again is that he likely disqualified himself via the US Constitution to get another chance.

It happens... pick a qualified candidate.... lots of time to do so..

 

According to you anyways. Not what I'd term the most reliable source.

And, of course, I can certainly understand insane blind rage. It happens.

But what are you really scared of? Just beat him again. You guys know how to do it, right?

 

OK, but that's just your opinion.

What are you really scared of?

 

Which part is just my opinion?

That I had no doubt? Obviously that's my opinion

That he's probably disqualified himself? I'm reading various respected legal scholars who are saying the exact same thing...

That you have other qualified candidates? Well, technically they are..

I'm scared of encountering bears in the wild, as I did twice last summer.. you?.