Activist files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race in Michigan

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  1. Bullseye

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    I doubt that. Our whole system is based on 'Innocent until proven guilty. A left wing Kangaroo Court isn't sufficient. PROVING insurrection is absurdly difficult. Particularly when available evidence has him saying "protest patriotically and peacefully".
     
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    Then why would it be sufficient for impeachment? I mean it definitely is, but it seems illogical that would be a lower standard than keeping someone off a ballot.
    Would your opinion change if they had proof he was hoping the protests would prevent the vote certification?
     
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    Yeah, nothing but personal attacks now. Too bad you’re on the wrong side of history.

    Considering TRAITOR tRump MUST have been referring to just his ass when he claimed 215 lbs. I think tRump is appropriate. 8)
     
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    It's not against the law to hope for something unless liberals have their way it will be. Only the voters can decided who will and will not be the president. An Obama selected federal judge made this determination. Thanks for Trump's mugshot t-shirts Trump is raking in the campaign donations. Stupid is as stupid does.
     
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    There would have to be a conviction for Trump to be barred for participating in an insurrection.
     
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    It's weird how you people are so hung up on Trump's weight... LMAO
     
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    Activist files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race in Michigan

    I think putting him in jail is more effective. They can't beat him in an election so this nonsense arises.
     
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    They seem to forget that he hasn't been charged with insurrection. The reason, of course, is that there was no insurrection.
     
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    NOPE!!!
    Hung up isn’t the word for it. He’s an obvious over weight slob that is juxtaposed to the “tough guy” image his MAGrates have bought in to and, get so defensive over. Which makes it so much more fun to make fun of.
     
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    Link?

    Hung up is exactly the word for it... LMAO
     
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    Actually using the full power of the Presidency to lean on election officials, create false Electoral College electors, have coconspirators spread lies and lawsuits to overturn a free and fair election you lost AND overthrow the Constitution. <- That’s insurrection.
     
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    OK, but last time.

    “Section 3 of The 14th Amendment does not expressly require criminal conviction and historically, one was not necessary.”
    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/lsb/lsb10569

    No, but you’re sure “hung up” trying to defend his fat ass. 8)
     
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    How many times does it have to be explained, they are removed from office so the prosecution can take place, it is the purpose of removing and why the Constitution specifically states that the impeachment does not prevent the further prosecution for any criminal acts. And it doesn't have to be a crime to get you impeached and removed from office. And you can be a convicted felon and run for President. Bill Clinton committed felonies in a federal courtroom and then federal grand jury did the Dems remove him? Did they say yes you are disqualified from office?
     
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    You don't need the 14th for that but if you are going to base in on a traitorous act then yes the person must have been found at the least indictable by a grand jury don't ya think? Congress doesn't simple declare people traitors, the courts do that. Get a special prosecutor and if they bring charges then try to impeach and remove. We just had one for Trump and no such charges brought.
     
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    Bill Clinton’s attempted impeachment was for lying about a blow job. Which, in fact, is why the deciding vote was against impeachment; the congressman didn’t want impeachment for a blow job to be part of history.

    TRAITOR tRump is disqualified from running for office for participating in an illegal attempt to overturn an election and, consequently, overthrowing the Constitution, aka insurrection. AFTER taking the oath of office to protect and defend our Constitution.
     
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    Actually, according to the Congressional Research Service being convicted of insurrection isn’t “expressly required” to be disqualified from running for national office by Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/lsb/lsb10569

    It’s actually up to State Secretaries of State to decide who is or isn’t on their State’s ballot.
     
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    That’s my point. If it doesn’t have to be a crime to get you removed from office, then why wouldn’t have to be a crime to keep you off the ballot?
     
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    I certainly understand that argument, but again…. If you don’t need a crime to remove someone from office, it doesn’t make sense it would require a crime to keep them off the ballot.
     
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    Sure, if you want to act like a child, go for it.
     
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    I don’t feel it’s “acting like a child”. To me, it’s doing my part to expose TRAITOR tRump for the fraud committing fraudulent, fraud he is. 8)

    It’s got your notice, so it must be working. It’s at least raising awareness. Thanks for noticing!
     
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    Trying to get "noticed" for the wrong reasons just reinforces my position.
     
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    So stop. 8)
     
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    Every bit of “evidence “ against Trump requires an astounding amount of blind motive assignment. You can’t prove a crime without intent and the only way you can assign intent in this case is to blindly assign him a criminal motive.
     
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    A teaspoon of good will doesn't get a truckload of ill will off the hook.


    Here are some facts:

    Trump told his base that Democrats stole the election.

    He told them that at every rally.

    He's been saying that over and over and over again.

    He still says that.

    The mob on the day of 1/6 attacked the capitol.

    They were enraged, filled with anger.

    What was the source of their anger?

    It was revealed with their mantra: 'stop the steal', which they have been repeating at rallies for some time.

    Therefore, Trump is responsible for that anger.

    Anger trigged the attack.

    Therefore, Trump is responsible for the attack.

    During the many months he has been saying, or rather LYING that 'democrats stole the election, enraging his base, causing a volcanic welling up of anger on 1/6, he managed a fleeting mention: 'go peacefully'.

    Excuse me, but a teaspoon of ILL WILL does not get a TRUCKLOAD of ILL WILL off the hook,

    It simply doesn't.

    If you shake a bottle of carbonated pop long enough, eventually it will explode, and it will explode without your having to command it to explode.

    Capiche?
     
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