The Hunter Impeachment, Day 1: For heaven's sake.. TRUMP appointed him!

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Committee to Weaponize Government made complete fools of themselves. What is the POINT they're trying to make? They're impeaching Hunter at the same time that they're trying to figure out some way to use Congress as a weapon against Job Biden.

    First the ONE relevant fact: Weiss was appointed by Trump. Garland PROMISED to not interfere.

    That's it! End of story! A SERIOUS inquiry would end right then and there with "Ok, Mr. Garland, that answers all our questions.... session adjourned! Anybody up for tacos?"

    Of course, this is NOT a serious inquiry. And Republicans needed to hear themselves talk. So they kept asking questions and refused to allow Garland to answer. A constant theme: "We all know the answer! But nobody will say it out loud!" I heard that again and again expressed using different wordings. Of course, Garland is too much a gentleman to give the answer they deserved: "Well... if you already know the answers, then what the f...k am I doing here?"

    There were plenty of laughable moments. But, as far as substance... the answer to the question in bold, covers it all. It's confirmed by Trump's appointee (Weiss) in three different letters. If they have any questions about the investigation, they'll have to ask Trump's appointee. And... that's about it!

    The rest were "profound" questions like "Do you support more crime?" or "Do you support religious discrimination?" ... and similar.

    Calling this a circus would be an insult to Ringling and Barnum...
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Their presumptive candidate for the presidency is facing 91 felony counts. Even Kevin, himself sporting a track record conservative wackadoodles would be proud of, has become exacerbated with The Crazy over funding the government. His caucus has lost what little interest they had in governing. And every time he tries to herd that mangy group of feral cats in to some semblance of rational behavior they threaten to sack him.

    So what's left for The Crazy to do but drag an honorable man thru the mud in a Kabuki theater performance for the ages?

    The drip, drip, drip of dysfunctionality is getting dangerous.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I must say, I would not have predicted Ken Buck (from my home state) would emerge as a voice of reason among the rabid attack dogs comprising the Repub House caucus.

    Representative Ken Buck, Republican of Colorado and a member of the ultraconservative House Freedom Caucus, was the rare Republican at this hearing defending Garland. A former federal prosecutor who has emerged as a leading Republican critic of the push to impeach President Biden without proof of corruption, Buck listed several examples in Garland’s career that demonstrated his independence and integrity. Buck suggested there was no decision Garland could make in the Hunter Biden case that would satisfy his critics. “You would have been criticized either way,” Buck told Garland.
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/0...congress-about-the-hunter-biden-investigation
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What difference does it make who appointed Weiss, he works for Garland now.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're not understanding how this works, do you!

    He DOES NOT work for Garland.
     
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    The problem is that the whole GOP wing of the House has reduced itself to performative politics. They play theater for their base to lap up, basically just repeating straight out talking points from RW media. The House cannot function in such a manner.
     
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    Boy are you lost. The Impeachment Inquiry is on Bribed Joe, not Crackhead Hunter.

    The Bidens: 'Stone Cold Crooked'

    Biden’s crime is right there in the list set out in Constitution Article II, Section 4:

    'The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.'

    '“Bribery” is not a complicated crime to understand. It has its own section of the U.S. criminal statutes, 18 U.S.C. Section 201. In case there were any doubt what this is about, the title of the section is “Bribery of public officials and witnesses.” Here are the parts of that section relevant to Biden’s conduct:'

    '(b) Whoever—(2) being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly . . . seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for:
    (A) being influenced in the performance of any official act; . . .shall be fined under this title or not more than three times the monetary equivalent of the thing of value, whichever is greater, or imprisoned for not more than fifteen years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
    '

    So, $61M in fines and 15 years in prison.

    'The crime of bribery of a public official only has three elements: (1) “corruptly seek[ing], receiv[ing] [or] accept[ing] anything of value”; (2) “in return for”; and (3) “being influenced in the performance of any official act.”'

    And there you go!
     
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    It would appear that dems are having trouble swallowing their own medicine. "Weaponizing the government against orange man is good. Against Biden, is ba'a'a'a'd."
     
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    He absolutely works for Garland...lol.
     
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    But he NEVER answered that question directly, did he? He couldn't "recall", yada yada. What a sleaze. McConnell desires a medal for keeping this scum off SCOTUS
    Got you worried, eh? You're just flailing without aim or direction. Calm down.
     
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    LOL, you're joking right? Who do you think he works for?
     
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    Since you didn't even know who he works for before making this thread, let me help you out.
    https://www.delawareonline.com/stor...e-david-weiss-us-attorney-delaware/877686001/
    Weiss was nominated because Democrats in Delaware asked Trump for him. He's their guy. I get some in the media are telling people how to think on this issue, but it's really not hard to find the truth.

    Why do you think he purposefully allowed the statute of limitations to expire on the most severe charges and offered a first of its kind immunity deal to Hunter? By allowing the charges to expire he gifted Hunter (and Joe Biden by extension) a HUGE sum of money.
     
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    Wrong! You haven't been paying attention. EVERYTHING they bring out is about Hunter. Not a word about any abuse of power by Joe. It's as if they thought they can remove Joe by impeaching his son.

    Which is pretty ridiculous. But not as ridiculous as your post. To think that impeaching a President is just a matter of highlighting a word i bold is absurd. Even the commissions Republicans have created to weaponize government haven't gone that far. But I tend to believe that they WILL sink to that level of nonsense as time goes by and they can't find anything to pin on Joe Biden. That, or they will just make up something. They ARE good at making up nonsense with no evidence.
     
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    What question?
     
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    I will explain it as simply as I know how.
    It is called following the money. They don't look at where the money ended up and work backwards. Hunter received the money. He passed a large part of it to the VP. Hunter's bosses hoped that would gain them favors from the VP.
     
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    then why are they focussed on Hunter
     
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    You don't understand what a Special Counsel is. You'll need to find out if you expect to make a meaningful contribution to this discussion.
     
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    So they are chasing rainbows hoping to find gold?
     
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    The person who can fire him who is not Garland. Biden could have removed him and didnt
     
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    Proof please
     
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    I can think of two explanations: 1- He couldn't find any evidence even after all these years investigating or 2-.... he's incompetent. The second would appear the most plausible given that Trump has a distinct tendency to appoint incompetent people. But a combination of the two is the most likely.

    Point is that the whole thing is 100% in the hands of a TRUMP appointee So any complaints will need to be directed at your Orange Idol. The other .... whatever number of hours in this deposition were a waste of time.
     
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    They are following gold in the hope of finding where it went.
     
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    And the ONLY thing we learned in this session of the Committee to Weaponize Government is that they are looking in the WRONG places. The guy who Trump appointed is the one you need to be asking!

    We also learned that Republicans, after five years of investigating, STILL have no idea how they're going to connect Joe Biden to....whatever his son is supposed to have done. Republicans are angry because they can't tie violating gun restriction laws and paying his taxes late to Joe. Unless they want to impeach him for "bad parenting"... or something... this nonsense appears to be dead in the water.
     
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    Nothing in there included evidence of bribery.

    Hold-up, you dont prosecute till you are ready to present the evidance...Where is the presentation? Hearsay for bribery isnt evidence. This isnt a sexual assault accusation.
     
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    In other words, you're trying to say that the people appointed by the president, such as Garland, work for the president and are not independent.
     
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