The Hunter Impeachment, Day 1: For heaven's sake.. TRUMP appointed him!

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "The law" cares when Mueller retired from the FBI?

    Anyway... This confirms you have no arguments, and expecting them is a waste of time.

    Thanks for playing...
     
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    Biden and Hunter are couple of cads.
     
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    The law cares that Mueller was independent of the DoJ when he was appointed. That's the whole point. I've explained this to you numerous times and even shared the law with you. Now do what your signature claims and stop wasting our time.
     
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    That was not what I was referring to. I was referring to you believing there was only one reason to investigate Joe Biden.
    It appears that you are one who being fooled. You ignore the obvious. Joe Biden has lied about knowing about Hunter's business. There have been numerous trips by Hunters bosses to the WH and Joe Biden has listened into numerous phone calls. Joe Biden has a number of email aliases. There are numerous LLC shell companies that appear to be linked to the Biden family.

    You believe AGW is a threat to civilization based on a barely a majority of climate scientists. I see flaws in the theory as have a number of other people. You claim the the vast majority of scientists believe in it because they were able to cherry pick studies to fit their agenda. Don't give me the BS about it being what they can prove. You wouldn't understand the proof if it came up and bit you on the a$$.

    Show me where I believed in "Pizzagate, January 6 being a "tourist visit", voter fraud, the conspiracy of scientists to push AGW," I was wrong about Dominion, although their system is too easy to hack. I don't think it is a conspiracy of scientists, but rather scientific papers being used wrong.

    You sure do make up a lot of stuff when you are losing an argument.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump didn't, when he brought in Weiss to investigate Hunter. However, Garland did. So he made him a Special Prosecutor INDEPENDENT of the DOJ.

    Your twists and turns to try to find anything improper in something in which this administration has gone out of their way to make PROPER, is pathetic.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is NO reason to investigate Joe Biden. Or, to be more precise, Republicans haven't FOUND a reason for investigating Joe Biden. That hasn't stopped them from engaging in a fishing trip trying to find one. So far UNSUCCESFULLY. My prediction: they will make one up. This is usually what happens when you start an investigation without a MOTIVE.
     
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    LLlC Shell companies. Lied about knowledge of Hunter's business. Numerous trips to the white house Hunter's bosses and Joe Biden listening into numerous phone calls. Numerous email alias's. Numerous people have come forward and said Joe Biden is getting part of Hunters "earnings". A text by Hunter complaining about forking over 50% of his "earnings".
     
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    Fake News. Trump appointed Weiss as I have already noted. I can't believe that you don't read your own thread before going postal. Unbelievable! Not worth wasting a single keystroke more.
     
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    If anybody had any doubt that "crimes" by Joe Biden are simply fabricated by conspiracy theory websites like InfoWars and Breitbart, all they have to do is read this post. I mean... take any example... a President of the United states listening to phone calls? That's life in prison right there, right?

    But yeah.... this is where your tax dollars are going, folks... paying for, what is it... three, four House Committees?... investigating Joe Biden. For taking too many phone calls and having an email alias.

    The extreme right is a sad sad joke.... And even normal right wingers are starting to realize this. It's the reason why Biden is going to win in 2024 like we haven't seen in decades...
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope neither Biden nor Trump wins in 2024. Our country deserves better.

    I see you have lost any attempt at a logical argument. Just denials.
     
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    More misinformation. Weiss joined the DoJ as First Assistant US Attorney in 2007. The position was vacated in 2017 and he became Acting US Attorney. Then Delaware's two Democrat Senators asked Trump to make the position permanent.

    Please read your signature then live up to the statement. Thanks.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, your wish is not going to come true. It's either-or. I can think of many who would do a better job than either of those two but.... reality says those will be our choices. So it's either the guy who committed the "crime" of talking on the phone and having too many emails, or the guy who last time he was President tried to perpetuate himself in power and become a dictator. Anything else you say is an attempt to deny reality.
     
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    I'm not talking about when he joined the DOJ. I'm talking about when Trump appointed him to investigate Joe Biden. Focus! In any case, I can't think of anything less relevant. What IS relevant is that he was brought in during the TRUMP administration to find something to charge Hunter for that would tie him to his dad. He couldn't!

    Imagine this: a Special Prosecutor whose only task was to find any type of wrongdoing by Joe Biden, and has been unable to do so after all these years.... Now I'm afraid somebody might want to canonize Joe. Consider this: it took democrats less than a month to find criminal offenses against Trump that even senators in his own party admitted he had committed. Most of them just refused to remove him for them.
     
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    More misinformation. You were talking about Hunter Biden. You made no mention of Joe Biden. Someone needs to focus, but it's not me. The person who needs to focus is probably the person who keeps squirming and misrepresenting their opinion as it gets easily thwarted with basic facts that would have been caught with kindergarten level research and verification.

    You told me to read your signature. I think it's time you read your signature and lived up to what it claims. This is just so embarrassing.
     
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    No. I'm talking about JOE Biden. Nobody cares about Hunter. And assigning a special investigator to investigate for years a private citizen would be too absurd, even for the right. They thought they could find a way to get to his dad through him. After all these years investigating, they obviously couldn't find anything. So they just charged Hunter with... whatever... to justify all this waste in taxpayer money.

    They keep doing this! They did it with Obama, with Hillary,... now with Joe... Appoint investigators to find something... ANYTHING... illegal. And they keep failing. Remember this guy called Durham? Even the Steele investigation was originally intended to find wrongdoing by Democrats. But Republicans abandoned it when it backfired. So there are two possibilities, either Republicans can only find and appoint incompetent investigators, or Democrats are way more honest than even I thought.... I'm guessing it's something somewhere in between.

    One would think that after the first four or five times of Republican-initiated investigations that take... years... and nothing comes out of them, most people would be intelligent enough to understand that THIS is the real "witch-hunting" (not when they hunt and actually DO find witches) But we should never overestimate of too many right-wing voters.
     
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    More misinformation.

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    Then when proven wrong you either lied or attempted to do a bait and switch.

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    I'm not even conceding Trump brought in Weiss to investigate Joe Biden. I'm just not willing to let these lies and/or misinformation continue unchecked. Let's stick to getting you to present an truthful representation of your posts, then we can have a conversation about the facts. I refuse to go into details with someone who has made what feels like nearly a dozen back-to-back posts that have been nothing but false representations and untruths.

    You told me to read your signature. I think it's time you read your signature and live up to what it claims. This is just so embarrassing. Please stop wasting our time.
     
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    If you think it is about the "crime" of talking on the phone and having too many emails, then you are absolutely clueless.
     
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    Nope! And if anybody thinks any of this is about Hunter they are being either naïve, hypocritical or utterly uninformed.

    Who would give a crap about Hunter who would not think they could use his drug addiction, criminal gun possession, and the attempts to use his last name for personal profit against the President?

    As for my sig... You criticize it and you haven't even read it! It says I do my due diligence researching the arguments I use. And the point I am making is that TRUMP appointed Weiss to investigate JOE. And, after years of investigating, you guys can't even state any crime. WHEN Weiss joined the DOJ is absolutely irrelevant to my point.

    That is my point. You appear to be intent on discussing Weiss' biography. I didn't investigate that because.... who cares? It's irrelevant to my real point. Which you keep trying to avoid.

    This is a pattern, BTW. Republicans try to investigate Democratic figures, and end up finding NOTHING of substance. I'm sure there are democrats who are corrupt... somewhere.... But all this taxpayer money spent on countless and fruitless investigations (Durham!), contrasted by the fact that so many investigations against Trumpiststs end in PROVEN crimes and often prosecutions... makes one feel that maybe I chose the right party.
     
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    More misinformation. Everyone can see the screenshots.

    I also find it funny that you called yourself either naive, hypocritical, or utterly uninformed. You say it took you a long time to research the validity of your argument that Donald Trump brought in David Weiss to investigate "HUNTER BIDEN." So why are you now saying it has nothing to do with him? What's changed?

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    You mean the screenshots with the part about having been TRUMP who appointed Weiss in the first place? THAT is on the title. You would need to be pretty lost to miss that.... Or is it where I say again and again that Weiss' appointment is not about Hunter but about Joe?

    I'm sure they can see them. But they don't have to. Any moderately intelligent person understands that a former President wouldn't appoint a Special Attorney to investigate a private citizen UNLESS they happened to be the son of a President or Presidential candidate, and they believed they could find.... SOME crime... to pin on them. However, this was five years ago. And they STILL can't find any crime committed by Biden.

    The one thing you don't realize is that this is a pattern. I remember during the Obama administration how they went on and on at length complaining because the IRS doing their job (501c4 nonsense), they said, was a CRIME. But they could never SAY what the crime WAS.

    I'm sure they'll eventually make up something, though....
     
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    More misinformation. You didn't answer my question, or I stopped reading because your pathetic responses have been rambling messes. Simple question, why are you hiding from the facts? Please address the substance of the conversation. I'm not a fan of the bait and switch game. You keep doing that when proven wrong and it doesn't work in debates. We are going to pause until you provide an honest response.

    Warning: as soon as I read a lie I'm done reading. I only have time and patience to address one lie at a time. Your rambling posts filled with multiple lies and misinformation are exhausting to respond to.
     
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    THAT is your question? I'm probably "hiding" from it because the question makes no sense.

    Sure. The substance of the conversation is in the Title AND on the OP.. Garland repeated it several times in his deposition: TRUMP appointed Weiss, and Garland promised to NOT interfere. And he hasn't. In fact, he gave him even MORE power. However, Trump's appointee has not been able to pin ANYTHING on Joe. And this make Trumpists very very angry. However, they can't come up with any crimes that Joe might be tied to either. And this is where we are...

    What part did you not understand?
     
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    Why are you talking about the title? You told me Trump appointed Weiss specifically to investigate Hunter. I responded to that, and then you falsely claimed you had never said that and you want to change the subject. But you did say it, and you specifically scolded me in this thread claiming that you researched all of your statements and you can support them. But, you're running. Even when I screenshotted your post, you lied, in response to your screenshot. You're still not addressing the comment that started this. It's just been a series of misinformation and redirections. Try again with an honest response.

    I've never seen anyone go through such great lengths to avoid admitting you were wrong. It's absurd, and it taints all of your future posts on this forum when this is the behavior we witness.
     
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    What kind of question is that? Because you DEMANDED that I stick to the point. The point IS in the title and on the OP.

    GARLAND said it! That's in the title and the OP! So first you complain about me talking about the title, and then you talk about the title?

    Of course I said it! It's in the title. Are you paying attention?
     

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