Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

War in the Pacific was done by the time the Sovs crashed the party....notme....seems you have a difficult time understanding this.

Sovs contributed little other than to steal Kurils.

 

There was no genocidal campaign by the US therefore why would I respond to nonsense.

 

Stop misrepresenting what I have stated. I have never argued or stated people can not or should not discuss anything. You project that on me. Stop it. Its false and it does not establish your credibility. I have never ever argued what anyone can and cannot argue and I have zero disagreement with pointing out the failed policies as to accepting Nazis into Canada after WW2 and do NOT lecture me on Nazis. I had family die in Kiev so stop with the patronizing tone and assuming you can lecture me on Nazis. You are arrogant and ignorant in tone with your words when you do that and in fact extremely intellectually dishonest posing falsehoods as to what I have stated on this thread.


How about instead of falsely assuming what my position is you read it just once. You have not. You are so intent of hearing your own opinion you can not read anything else but your own words.

I will say it one simple and last time and then cease and desist responding to you as its clear you have no interest in anything but yourself. I stated and state again-this incident has been used to prop pro Russian anti Ukrainian sentiment and detract from what Russia has done in Ukraine and worse still, justify the invasion of Ukraine as an anti Nazi action. When you make the blanket statement that and I quote, "It helps Russia in no way", you in fact with your blanket statement show your closed mind. I have never stated people can not challenge people with Nazi pasts. Never. I have said some are using it as a cover to deflect from what Russia has done in Ukraine. As for your specific accusations, reference to tribalism, falsely projecting on to me what my positions are, that falsity speaks for itself.

 

They took the Kurils after they blasted through an army of 1 million men strong.
And most of all, they made it look like it was easy, when eyeballing how fast they did it.
This left Japan nothing to the imagination how it would go if they wouldn't surrender.

 

You say this. But it's a historic fact that the US build a civilian Japanese town in the US and examined how to bomb it flat as efficiently as possible. They figured it out that a combination of firebombs was the best way. And they unleashed this knowhow on the civilian population, by bombing 67 cities killing 500,000 civilians .... on purpose.

Such a campaign is simply put: genocidal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Village_(Dugway_Proving_Ground)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay#World_War_II

 

Without LL.....Sovs were done.


Japs were 99% licked by the time the Sovs crashed the party.

 

You sound like you are accusing the US of genocide but have ignored the genocide that Russia committed since the full invasion of Ukraine in 2022.But hey Russia is an expert at committing genocide since they learned how to use taking food stuffs away from Ukraine in the early 1930’s. The Russians were selling grain on the world market while taking food out of Ukraine.That was genocide.

 

The world was done if it wasn't for Russia winning WWII in Germany and also making Japan quit.

Russia defeated an army of 1 million strong. If that's 1%, than their entire army would be 100 million strong.
Safe to say you got no clue what you're talking about.... again.

 

The US did plan and following through the mass murder of Japanese civilians. I would not know why this doesn't qualify as a genocide.

And so, how does this excuse what the US did? What a massive load of quickly changing the topic with a whataboutism.

 

Without LL .....Sovs were done for.


Japs were 99% licked by the time Sovs showed up.

 

You're just conceding to my reply by just repeating your previous post.

 

Not conceding anything.....just stating the obvious.

Without Lend Lease.....Sovs were done for.


Japs were 99% defeated long before any Sovs showed up.

 

and I disputed it, and you got nothing to say about it.
So you're conceding.

 

Without LL....Sovs were finished.

Japs were done long before Sovs showed up.

 

read post 411

 

Read my previous post.

 

The reason the US conducted bombing of ovilian neighborhoods was because the Japanese hid manufacturing in civilian neighborhoods. “Initial attempts to target industrial facilities using high-altitude daylight "precision" bombing were largely ineffective. From February 1945, the bombers switched to low-altitude night firebombing against urban areas as much of the manufacturing process was carried out in small workshops and private homes: this approach resulted in large-scale urban damage and high civilian casualties”

Not whataboutism. Russia hit civilian targets such as infrastructure. That is genocide.

 

The US switched from precision bombing to carpet bombing cities with firebombs. It was unnecessary and disproportionate and they went on doing that till the very last day of the war when there basically was no point to do that anymore. It's a war criminal and racially motivated thing the US did against the Japanese civilian population.

So did the US. Hence it's genocide what the US did.

 

The objective of the US was to reduce Japanese manufacturing not to hit civilian targets. The US ade the effort to hit Japanese distributed manufacturing not civilian targets and not civilians. If the Japanese were not hiding manufacturing in side civilian building the civilian s f would have been safe.

 

When you attack a region where you know a lot of civilians live, and switch from precise bombing to carpet bomb it with firebombs to deliberately cause as much carnage as possible, than.. it is no freaking way this is going to count as with some kind of regard to human life. Not by a massive long shot. And THAT is what matters.

They US massacred 100.000's civilians in 1 single night!! We got the Jews all up and angry on about 1% of that where soldiers and civilians alike got murdered by Hamas. Where is your head at to think this is no genocide?

Even the Russians today cause a hell of a lot less carnage. Look at the numbers of 9/11. What the US did in just 1 night, and I'm not even talking about nuclear bombing civilians, is just way worse.


Maybe your reaction is out of racism, that you think a Japanese civilian life is like meh.

 

Do not muddle this discussion with an implication of racism ( against me) which you veiled as a “question”. It is not fair us us to try and question the decisions made by the US 80 years ago when it was defending itself against the Empire of Japan who attacked US territories and invaded at least two two US territories concurrently with starting the war and had invaded at least one US territory. I never condoned the use of the term “Japs” or “gooks” to describe Vietnamese or Chinese or North Koreans which I find to be racist. Fire bombing was used against Germany during WWII was that “racist” or “anti ethnic” in your mind” ? I am not implying justification nor condemnation.

 

You're not addressing my arguments of the disproportionate utterly massive massacre among the civilians population because the Americans switched from precision bombing to carpet bombing with incinerating weapons and that it went with a total disregard to what it did to the civilians.

Now you have read it, you simply refuse to condemn it. And that does hint you refuse to condemn war crimes done by the US against Japanese civilians. You're claiming this has nothing to do with racism. But I'm a bit of a loss why you can have that opinion by refusing to condemn this.

 

I told you that we are in no position to criticize the US about a decision that was. ace 80 years ago when there was no proof that the US specifically targeted civilians. Germany lead by Hitler told us that he will commit genocide just read Mien Kampf.

 

We are.

1) The US build makeshift Japanese towns in to see how they can maximise burning it all down by testing their weapons.
2) The US switched from precision bombing to mass carpet bomb civilian area's with the knowhow from their tests.

You go argue how this isn't proof. Because so far your not explaining it.

 

When manufacturing shops are hidden among civilian homes that is preparation for getting at the shops since the Japanese hid the shops among the civilian housing. Dresden was just flat out firebombing.