Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

What navy did Sovs have in ww2?....any carriers?

Like I said ....Japs were 99% licked by the time they showed.

 

No...I'm not.

I don't promote Nazis.

 

Licked? The USSR rammed through a million strong army and got their butts on Japanese soil. lol
And all that time the US was busy with their genocide bomb campaign against Japan, it also could have parachuted in and got their butts on Japan too. But no.

 

And I don't promote Russia, but that doesn't stop your logic from claiming otherwise. If my criticism of praising a Nazi, which has nothing to do with Russia, is promoting Russia then your defenses of praising a Nazi is promoting a Nazi. This is your logic. You can't have it both ways. What do you think is worse, promoting Nazis or promoting Russia?

 

Right....

You sure it wasn't 2 million maybe?

How about 3?

 

By the time the Soviets jumped in the Japanese army had pretty much collapsed therefore the SU is not who made Japan surrender.
The dropping of the second atomic bomb is what made Japan surrender.
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August 9, 1945


atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, during World War II, American bombing raids on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima (August 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (August 9, 1945) that marked the first use of atomic weapons in war.”

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On August 6, 1945, having received no reply to the surrender terms, an American bomber called the Enola Gay dropped “Little Boy,” an atomic bomb, on Hiroshima, Japan. On August 8th, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan and invaded Manchuria and Sakhalin Island.

It was the second bomb that finally made Japan surrender not the invasion of Manchuria.

 

Yup....but according to some here.....a million Sovs swam across and made Japs surrender.

 

It was the second bomb that made Japan surrender.


More facts about when Japan sent the signal to surrender.

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August 10, 1945:

The single-condition document was signed by every member of the [ruling council] including [ministers] Anami, Umezu, and Toyoda. Suzuki summoned the full cabinet to another emergency meeting, where the [other] ministers ratified the decision unanimously. Togo’s foreign ministry began drafting a formal surrender note to be conveyed to U.S. Secretary of State James Byrnes through the neutral European capitals of Bern and Stockholm. It was transmitted at seven o’clock that morning, Tokyo time. Japan would accept the Potsdam Declaration, it said, “with the understanding that the said declaration does not comprise any demand which prejudices the prerogatives of His Majesty as a Sovereign Ruler” . . .

The Japanese note arrived in Washington by several routes. First, the American codebreakers intercepted and broke the message between Tokyo and Bern, and rushed it up the chain of command. The Domei shortwave radio message arranged by Japanese diplomats arrived in the small hours of the morning of August 10 . . . Later that afternoon, the formal message was received in the U.S. State Department via the Swiss Embassy.”

 

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It was the second bomb that made Japan surrender. By the time the SU invaded Manchuria and Korea Japan already signaled it will surrender.


More facts about when Japan sent the signal to surrender.

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August 10, 1945:

The single-condition document was signed by every member of the [ruling council] including [ministers] Anami, Umezu, and Toyoda. Suzuki summoned the full cabinet to another emergency meeting, where the [other] ministers ratified the decision unanimously. Togo’s foreign ministry began drafting a formal surrender note to be conveyed to U.S. Secretary of State James Byrnes through the neutral European capitals of Bern and Stockholm. It was transmitted at seven o’clock that morning, Tokyo time. Japan would accept the Potsdam Declaration, it said, “with the understanding that the said declaration does not comprise any demand which prejudices the prerogatives of His Majesty as a Sovereign Ruler” . . .

The Japanese note arrived in Washington by several routes. First, the American codebreakers intercepted and broke the message between Tokyo and Bern, and rushed it up the chain of command. The Domei shortwave radio message arranged by Japanese diplomats arrived in the small hours of the morning of August 10 . . . Later that afternoon, the formal message was received in the U.S. State Department via the Swiss Embassy.”

 

Indeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Japanese_War
japan: c. 1,092,400 men


So far you're showing that you got absolutely no clue what went on....
from all the way back that Russia was already winning the war when the other allied entered Europe.
To not knowing Russia was already in Germany when the others were not.
To not knowing Russia already invaded Japan making them quit.
That 2 cities burned to a crisp were just 2 out of 60 cities that the US picked for their genocide.

 

The US demanded a no-condition surrender. So that 1 condition surrender wasn't good enough.

And as noted. The US claims that Japan would not surrender.
And so the nukes were justified.
But they DID surrender. har har.

 

Key date Aug 7 1945....

War in Pacific was over by then.....2 days later another bomb dropped.

 

I recently told you that the US held a genocidal campaign against the Japanese civilian population.
They experimenten in the US on a buildings they made who were typical Japanese to see how to maximize the effect.
Japan did not care when 2 cities were bombed flat. It did not care when 10 cities were bombed flat.
They did not care when it hit 20, nor 30, not even when the US got 50 cities full of cities burned to a crisp.
No reason to believe that somewhere around 60 it suddenly was like... let's call it quits.

 

Yeah....and when Sovs seized Japanese territory and deported ,killed, the inhabitants....that wasn't "genocide"?

Like I said.....War in the Pacific was over by the time Sovs got to the party.

 

Really??? Wow!

 

totally not relevant to the point.

You're not even responding to the argument that Japan did not care that soo many cities were burned to a crisp in the past.
So I can only assume you're defaulting.

 

Not true. Japan had an army of 1 million people strong.
Russia got rid of it when they jumped in. It took them just a couple of weeks to accomplish that to then invade Japan.
That shock caused Japan to surrender.

 

Not defaulting anything....just stating the obvious.

 

Still not responding to the fact that Japan did not care about the cities being turned to a crisp like 60 times over, making the idea that the last 2 pushed them over the edge totally not plausible. While the fact is that they lost a million soldiers and a part of their homeland due to Russia in a couple of weeks. And you weren't even aware of it.

 

Japan surrendered only after the nukes were used and as I noted they signaled that they were ready to surrender one day after the second nuke was used.

 

I already replied that Japan did not care that the previous almost 60 cities were burned to a crisp.
What changed was that Japan lost their army of 1 million strong in a matter of weeks by Russia who invaded Japan itself.

 

Wrong you are. Japan signaled after the second bomb was dropped that they intended to surrender. Last bomb dropped AUG 6. Two days after Aug 8 the SU declares war on Japan. Aug 10 Japan signals it was intending to surrender.
The Soviets did not destroy the Japanese army in 2 days. The SU was fighting the Japanese for over a month aftercJapan said they will surrender. Japan did not have put up a fighting force after it said it was surrendering.
The formal surrender was signed Sep 15. The U.S., UK,and Australia had stopped fighting right when Japan said they were surrendering so the SU kept fighting as I said after Japan signaled ready to surrender. The Sep surrender date was just a formal signing ceremony.

 

Dude... the hell.
The USSR started on the 7th.
2nd bomb drop as on the 9th.

And you casually are not responding that the US already burned around 60 cities to a crisp!!!

 

@PARTIZAN1
So the "Two days after Aug 8 the SU declares war on Japan" is false. Thanks.

You're still utterly refusing to respond to the point that the US unleashed a genocidal campaign and that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were around the 60th cities the US tried to kill all the civilians living in it. And nothing before made the Japanese change their minds when city after city got massacred. It's just childish by now, and you're obviously defaulting by endlessly not commenting on my arguments.