Tlaib accuses Biden of supporting 'genocide' of Palestinians, warns: 'We will remember in 2024

The post also included a video of scenes from Gaza and protests in the U.S., interspersed with clips from Biden, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The scenes included protest chants from Ohio saying, "No peace on stolen land!" Illinois "Free! Free! Palestine!" and Michigan "From the river to the sea."

The video ended with Tlaib saying to the camera, "We will remember in 2024," before the words "Joe Biden supported the genocide of the Palestinian people," appeared on the screen along with a demand for him to immediately support a cease-fire "or don't count on us in 2024."

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Im on team Biden on this one. He has got his hands full with his more radical base. What do you all think?

 

I think Biden and friends are quickly realizing that they were far to quick to give Israel unconditional support. Their tone has been shifting dramatically in recent days. Israel has turned into a mad dog. They gave up their moral high ground. Israel could have had full international support and kept good relations with Saudi Arabia, giving Iran a massive blow, but they squandered the moral high ground. Now they are drowning in the mud of immorality with Hamas, slaughtering civilians left and right. The worst part is their actions have made Israelis far less safe than more safe. Now, not only will more terrorists be targeting Israel, but other nation states as well. And it could ultimately drag us into yet another pointless war in the Middle East.

I think Biden's original stance is the result of massive lobbying from the MIC. They are the only ones that benefit from a conflict like this.

 

Life is about balance, governing in a free society is also about balance. If I were to speculate about the big picture, who benefits from this confusion and world chaos? Those will be the forces behind this current turmoil.

 

Lol and how was Israel going to accomplish that? How would you expect Israel to respond if the Palestinians came into your house and stabbed your infant repeatedly, raped your daughter and beheaded your son in front of you and then took your wife and threw her in the back of a pickup truck and gangraped her openly while driving her down the street and kidnapped her before they sexually abused and murdered her in their camp and videotaped it and sent it to you to watch and posted it on the internet for the world to see?

What would you expect as a response?

 

Tlaib needs to go...
Hopefully she gets voted out in 2024.

 

She's making it easier for Trump.

 

Hallelujer

 

Certainly not by going into another neighborhood and killing everyone in it! Can't you see how stupid that is? The answer to what to do when your family gets murdered is NOT to go murder dozens of other families! In what twisted word does that make any kind of sense. Then it will be the Palestinians saying "How do you expect us to react when Israel comes in and kills my wife, my baby, my brother, my sister, my parents, and my grandparents?". And then watch as the IDF releases the footage and you see media braodcasting the destruction of your home all over the tv.

 

So then what should they do?

 

Clear the city one grid square at a time, not using airstrikes except when they can guarantee to the best of their knowledge there are no civilians present. Under no circumstances should they hit civilian targets. Will it be more dangerous. Yes. But that is the job of the military, to take risks to protect civilians. And like it or not, Palestinians are civilians under Israeli care, since Netanyahu is so determined not to have a 2 state solution. With 300,000 soldiers, they have more than enough to occupy one grid square at a time after they are cleared, to minimize the chance of Hamas from returning to them. There will likely be insurgent attacks, but they will be unable to do anything like on the scale of October 7th.
The real solution at that point needs to be a diplomatic one, one that gives Palestinians all of the rights and privileges of a Jewish Israeli citizen. And not just on paper, but in actuality. They need to win the 'hearts and minds', to use the phrase coined in the war on terror. It is the only possible way to bring this war to an acceptable conclusion. Hamas needs to go, for sure. Bring Fatah in to govern in Palestine, or a new, similar group. The alternatives are horrific, between everything from genocide to WW3.

 

I don't agree with that, but she needs to temper her comments in this situation...

Those Americans who support Palestine will have the same decision in 2024 as everybody else... Biden or fascism... Or I guess they can stay home and quietly support fascism...

 

So let me get this right. If Hamas came in and murdered and raped your children and wife in front of you, your expectation would be that Israel should provide them with equal citizenship? Are you kidding right now? Like is that some kind of messed up joke that I don’t get?

 

Exactly...
Michigan Muslims could abandon Biden:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/04/politics/muslim-americans-biden-michigan/index.html

 

Yeah well, you don’t make friends with vicious animals who want to hurt you and then act surprised when they turn on you.

Or as my redneck family would say, “if you lay with dogs you’re gonna end up getting fleas”.

I mean what y’all think was gonna happen when you support an extremist Muslim in congress?

 

You obviously don't get it, that much is true.
Hamas did those things, not Palestine. Hamas is the symptom of Israeli policies against the Palestinians.

So, if someone came in and killed your family, would you go to your family's neighbor and execute his neighbor's family? Doesn't make sense, right? OR maybe it does to you. Its hard to tell. That is what Israel is doing by slaughtering so many innocents along with Hamas.

If a murderer had your daughter held hostage, with a gun to her head, would you be cool with a police decision to go ahead and shoot through your daughter to kill the gunman, saying they had to make the decision to kill your daughter so that the gunman couldn't kill anyone else?

We can use these stupid examples all night long. the bottom line is, no matter how bad you want to kill terrorists you CANNOT do it by killing innocents that (1) creates more terrorists, and (2), makes you as bad as the terrorists. You wait years if you have to for the right time to strike when there are no innocents endangered.

 

You do realize that the same Hamas terrorists who did those brutal things including taking a 19 year old daughter after raping her in front of her family, they took her back to their camp where they took her phone and videotaped her getting gangraped by every disgusting animal in that camp until she was bleeding profusely from her privates, beheaded her and used her daughters phone to send the video to her mother to watch.

Those same animals will receive Israeli citizenship and equal rights just like every other Palestinian there because they’re indistinguishable from the rest.

And you would be okay with that?

No see here’s what should happen. Israel is actually being nice. Because what I would suggest if I was Netanyahu is that he get on international tv, in front of the UN and every person on the planet and say this:

“You have 30 days to get out of Gaza and the West Bank. I don’t care if you’re a terrorist or a grandma or a child or the leader of Hamas, or a crippled person. You will have 30 days under armed guard to evacuate so that no harm comes to you.

After 30 days, if you remain, you will be considered an enemy, regardless of who you are, what age you are or what condition you are in. If you’re not Israeli you will die in 30 days. I am going to wipe Gaza and the West Bank off the map and we are going to resettle it and start again.

And anybody who has a problem with that, can show up in Gaza in 30 days and we can handle it.”

Then he should drop the mic and leave.

 

Where did you see anyone say give Hamas citizenship? He said they have to go….

 

Well, thank god that not even Hamas is as evil and twisted as your ideas are.

 

Hamas is the Palestine elected government. Come on man this hair-splitting propaganda is getting old. To end this Hamas needs to surrender, if not they are not getting away with the terrorist slaughter until they are all killed, Israelis and Pakistanis residents aren't going to be safe.

 

Evicting people from their homes and telling them to go somewhere else because they’re not welcome here… is a HELL of a lot nicer than the brutality those Hamas members inflicted on the Israelis. And YOU want to give them equal citizenship for it? Are you insane?

 

They are not safe because Israel is slaughtering them. Israel propped up Hamas precisely because they knew Hamas would continuously provide them an excuse to keep the two state solution from going forward. It is well documented.
There is no hair splitting. Slaughtering civilians to kill terrorists is ****ing stupid, as the whole reason to stop terrorists is to keep civilians from dying.

 

They have nowhere else to go. And the Israeli brutality has killed over five times the number of civilians that Hamas killed. That is “nicer” how??

So , they have no where to go, and no means of getting there even if they did have a place to go, and they are in the place that they have lived for thousands of years. Yeah, I think they deserve citizenship and equality, just like any normal human being in any normal country.

Are you insane?

 

Let’s change this up a little bit. Should the US and Russia have taken the same type of approach when they were invading Germany in WWII? I ask because most of the civilians there weren’t supportive of what they were doing. They were children and women and elderly. And we bombed them into submission. Should we have set up zones and given the Nazi’s the chance to engage us in urban warfare without using air superiority?

I got more questions for you. Let’s assume for a moment that we all gave Palestine an independent state. Years later China and Russia were invading the United States. Which side do you think the Palestinians would fall on. I would suggest that not only would they support China and Russia in word but they would be sending their Muslim extremists into our country to rape and murder our people. Those 10 and 15 year olds that you’re so adamant we have to save, would be screaming Allahu akbar as they ran through downtown Los Angeles with our civilians heads on pikes.

The Palestinians would be literally dancing in the streets cheering as they saw their extremists on TikTok videos gang raping our women and children.

I really don’t understand the desire to save those people.

 

Bruh don’t give me that bullshit that they can’t leave. Literally hundreds of thousands of them right now have left even with no plan of anywhere to go. They could have left 6 months or a year ago. But they stayed. And they stayed because they believe in Palestine from the river to the sea.

You don’t stay somewhere people are going to chop your head off if they find out you disagree with them. You stay because you agree with them.

 

We should have absolutely done our best to minimize civilian casualties. Bombing them into submission then was as wrong as doing it now. The fact that we won does not make our actions right or just.

And slaughtering civilians, or denying them freedom from oppression because they might join our enemy is I humane as hell. If we had things your way, you would have our kids who are 10 or 15 now run through the streets screaming “dues Vult! Slaughter the Muslims!”

How about we don’t support stupid policies that lead to war, like what we are doing now? Because we are marching headlong into a widening conflict by supporting the inhumane actions that are occurring as we speak.