Tlaib accuses Biden of supporting 'genocide' of Palestinians, warns: 'We will remember in 2024

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  1. Josh77

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    I see you live in a complete fantasy land. That explains a lot. And would you leave your home because say, China tells you you have to?
     
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    I don't think you can pin that on Tlaib. I'm sure Michigan Muslims have their own T.V.s, and their own reactions to what they see & hear, without needing to be told what to think.

    In this situation, a politician has to do what he thinks is right, not worry about politics. I think that's what Biden has been doing. He probably believed that he could best influence Netanyahu, through behind the scenes conversations, while publicly supporting him. In both cases, Biden's first priority was to prevent the wider expansion of this conflict-- which would only mean more deaths. The public support (and our aircraft carrier battle groups) have reduced the risk of expansion of the fighting. Unfortunately, our behind the scenes diplomacy has not yet had it's intended effect on Israel's prime minister. This now tarnishes America's image, as well. But I don't expect Joe to throw in the towel. It ain't over,
    as they say, until the fat lady sings.

    As for the Tlaib video-- I don't know where to find it. The link in the OP, is to other clips of the Representative speaking, mostly as a television guest. I didn't hear anything in those clips, that seemed objectionable. It just sounds like she is doing what she thinks is right, as well.
     
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    So Hamas slaughters civilians and your suggestion is to give them citizenship. Doesn’t that just incentivize Hamas to continue their campaign of brutality against the Israelis? They ran in and raped and murdered and kidnapped1500 Israelis and your side gave them citizenship.

    Doesn’t that make them believe if next time they kill and rape 5,000 they can get even more of what they want?

    Cause they’re not interested in a Palestinian state. They want the eradication of the Jewish state and a Palestinian state from River to sea. So giving them a state doesn’t make them stop. Because their goal is not a state, it is the eradication of the Jewish people and Israel.
     
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    Comply with international law, and for starters: not go deprive millions and millions of people of water, food, medical aid and plan to go ethnically cleanse all of them and pitch this around in the open as well as behind the scenes.

    Do also take into account that this isn't something that came from right out of the blue. Israel has an ongoing war criminal policy to colonize Palestine. It's a war crime, and the US is officially against it.... but does absolutely nothing when Israel does this and announces to the world that they going to do this, which they do every year. Subsequently the US, by supporting Israel with a hell of a lot of weapons, is still responsible for these war crimes as well. And when you already know Israel is lead by war criminals, than a genocide is reasonable to be expected as a response, and just ignorant from Biden to just let them at it with his weapons.
     
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    Gee, I wonder what got the radicals to that point? I'm sure it has nothing to do with their families being slaughtered by Israel, and the oppression of living in an open-air concentration camp their whole lives.
    And Israel wants the eradication of the Palestinian state.

    Doesn't letting Israel continue to slaughter civilians without repercussion incentivize them to continue their slaughter of Palestinian civilians? Killing well over 8,000 civilians, and we are letting it happen. Why are we rewarding decades of oppression? Even Israeli Jewish citizens are protesting against Netanyahu's actions.
     
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    The weapon industry and Biden who wants to be reelected and needs the votes from all those people who love to see Muslims being slaughtered if they object and fanatically being oppressed, impoverished, and colonized and in general being humiliated all their lives as 2nd class trash at the barrel of Jewish guns when they comply.

    And Netanyahu who tries to save his political career, while Jews in the west bank get to massacre Arabs with the help of the IDF for the sake to fulfill their religious obligations... just like the "reserves" and the IDF gets to do in Gaza, to than claim they are innocent civilians when the tables get turned again.
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion, but you also forgot about Russia's stake in the chaos. Many players with agendas, Russia's just one extra.
     
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    Russia just sees how the west labels it a war crime when Russia deprives civilians from water and electricity, but not when Israel deprives water, aid, food and electricity to a hell of a lot more people. When Russia bombs a place that's used of a shelter, than Russia get's sanctioned economically by the west. When Israel does it, than Israel gets more weapons to redo it from the west.

    And so enter Russia and others who see this hypocrisy based on favoritism and racism.
     
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    He deserves everything he gets. This what he gets for taking on a job he can't handle mentally.. Clearly the people he is to oversee in Washington are taking turns at doing his job while the feeble mouse parrots whatever the teleprompter tells him to say..
     
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    the DNC needs to recruit primary opponents of these Islamist terrorist apologists. and from a practical angle-Jews give far more money and leadership to the Democrats than do Islamist supporters. The DNC runs a very real risk of alienating one of its most reliable and generous voting blocs
     
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    Ukraine didn't go into Russia and murder civilians.
     
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    No she doesn't, you guys need to elect more people just like her. The squad needs to be 10 times bigger
     
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    They can have ol Lizzy Cheney, she'll fit right in with the two faced gang..
     
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    Nah...
    No way...
     
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    American needs to see what sort of radicals the left wing is tolerating in high office.

    Maybe then the people will wake up
     
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    And she can take the moron I mean the Mormon. ... mitt Romney with her
     
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    Yet you are unable to quell the facts that Russia will benefit from their Ukraine invasion being dethroned from USA media coverage and the Trump Party's push to cut Ukraine funding.........Russia benefits, Iran benefits. The Peace deal with the Kingdom is also shelved, who benefits?! You need to accept reality that their are much more players in this game other than emotions and feelings being exploited and triggered.
     
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    That would only be true if Russia is able to influence the media in the US. But it looks like the US just rather much more like to cover how the Jewish State is just slaughtering 1,000's of civilians. It so far killed more UN staff than any other war. It killed more children than all the people who got killed by 9/11. And you can say all you want that Palestinians got warned to move south, but that where Israel just bombs them too. Particularly the way Israel cut off millions of people from getting food, water and medical aid and bombed around the crossing with Egypt shows perfectly fine how genocidal the Jewish state is.
     
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    Sounds like Putin apologist rhetoric^^^.
    If you are of the opinion that Russia can't and isn't influencing social media in America, that's naive as heck. Are you in denial that Russia, Iran, etc. benefit from this Hamas attack and Israel's response?
     
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    Who will those pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinians vote for come next year? Certainly not Trump. Maybe some will stay home and not vote at all while other vote third party. That would take some votes from Biden, but I think the hatred of Trump these far-left progressives have will override the Israeli-Hamas war. If that war end soon, within a month or two, it’ll be ancient history come November 2024. Americans are known for their short memories.

    Is Tlaib stating the pro-Hamas faction of the democratic party will vote for Trump, not Biden? I’m sure she isn’t. I just chalk this up as normal political rhetoric trying to get one’s way. The polls haven’t changed a bit since this war began, they’re not about to change in the near future either regardless of what Tlaib says or threatens.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

    The war hasn’t had an effect on who folks plan on voting for. The bottom line is in the end, far left progressives like Tlaib, AOC and their faction within the democratic party will end up voting for Biden.
     
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    It's the team that appeases Iran, that's what I think!
     
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    The ONLY thing that got terrorists to that point are because that’s their purpose. They’re terrorists. You act like if given a chance for peace they’ll be peaceful? When? They don’t treat their own people like people! If their main purpose it to kill all the Jews what part of that includes peace? Please explain what “from the river to the sea” means? Just push the Jews out peacefully? NO. We all know it means exactly what they say it means and what their actions prove. They have NO right to that land. It’s not theirs just because they think it is.

    Hamas and terrorists started this and they won’t stop. History is history. Palestinians had multiple opportunities for peace and they attack murder and kill and rape every time because they’re terrorists.

    Hamas kills whenever they have the chance. If Israel wanted there would be no Palestinians decades ago. Why is that. Why does Israel allow them to live if they want to ethnically cleans them all? It makes no sense
     
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    When people are as blind as you appear to be, there is no chance for peace. Open your eyes.
     
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    You’re the only one blind because you refuse to follow facts and history. Define “from the river to sea”. NOW!!! Quote Hamas’ charter. Quote their WORDS!! Their actions. Show the peace. Show where Hamas has shown interest in peace. Where and when?

    Please explain how people interested in peace burn children alive? Rape women. Murder innocent people and RECORD it. Brag about it? Cheer for it? Where’s the peace?
     
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