Tlaib accuses Biden of supporting 'genocide' of Palestinians, warns: 'We will remember in 2024

So how many times has Israel been willing to negotiate for a two state solution and Palestinians rejected it? From what I can tell it’s somewhere between 8-10 times

And why do the Palestinians reject it? Because they’re not interested in a two state solution. They’re interested in the eradication of the Jewish state and people and a Palestinian state from the river to the sea.

 

Me upset? Lol, projection more likely.

As I clearly stated, you appear comitted to down play Russia's, Iran's and even China's roles or benefits from this ME situation. What you need to answer is why since Hamas opened this most recent door?

Seems like you don't want free societies to control the world order? Why not?

 

Arabs put up a plan according to international law as late as -top of my head- 2019. And Israel keeps on rejecting it while blasting internationally how they are going to go forth colonizing the West Bank and East-Jerusalem. it's a flat out war crime. And with that they show they have zero intent to have a 2 state solution. Their peace plans are also utterly ridiculous, as in turning all of the West Bank is small open air prisons surrounded by Israel who control everything going in and out, no say about their airspace, and must accept Israel gets to drain their water, while surrounded by fanatic settlers armed to the teeth who murder around like they are doing right now while Palestine may not defend itself ever. That's not accepting Palestine as a state. The Jewish state knows very well that this is in no way acceptable, and they are doing this so you lot can pin that on the Arabs by leaving out they why. And in the meantime you lot look the other way when that the colonial power goes forth with their UNPROVOKED war crimes. And because the Jewish state goes on with their unprovoked war crimes, it means it's on them, their voters, and their cheer leaders.

 

Downplay? I'm just comparing.
You're free to post how many civilians Russia killed since the start of that war, vs how many the Jewish state killed.

Hamas is a reaction to the ongoing fascist oppression of that colonial state, as in them colonies that Jewish state got in East-Jerusalem and the WB. Where Israeli Jews keep on making new ones and expanding existing ones... which is an UNPROVOKED war crime. It's leader got born in Gaza, because the Jews deported his parents together with the entire town so Jews could bulldozer it, erase their cultural presence, and build a Jewish city on top of their ruins.

That's why this is happening now. It's on Israel and it's Jewish citizens that they get this reaction.

 

You can’t expect Israel to give them part of the Israeli state while Hamas is in control. What guarantee can you or ANYONE else provide that Hamas isn’t just going to take over and have a ****ing legitimate state under their control with the intent to destroy Israel?

Why the hell would Israel be stupid enough to do that? Would you do that if you were Israel?

 

The Jewish state can not give what's not theirs.

East-Jerusalem and the WB aren't under control of Hamas. WTF you on about?
And the only state destroying an other state is Israel in this case. Every year the Jewish state destroys more and more of Palestine by having them colonies.
Those are unprovoked war crimes as noted in my previous post. It means it's on them, their voters, and their cheer leaders.

 

unprovoked lol. What a ridiculous statement.

 

Are you claiming Israel got provoked to colonize?

 

From what I can see, must Palestinians support Hamas. Word has it they would now elect Hamas to lead the government on the the West Bank instead of the more moderate government that is in power now.

Why is that so? Yes, some reactions are caused be modern resentments, but most of it is fundamentalist, radical Muslim hatred for all Jews and other infidels. As long is that crap is built into you culture, it’s impossible to become truly civilized.

 

They’re not in control right now. How can Israel be assured they won’t take control?

See your problem is you’re just like Hamas in that you want the destruction of Israel and its people and won’t accept any other outcome.

 

I think "Team Biden" is like a basket of idiots, and not statemen, professionals or leaders. Gratefully a temporary one. And in the overall picture, little more than gravel in the gearbox. Doing damage, but serve no good purpose at all.

I think Team America is the #1 priority and should consist of people putting America first. No person that doesn't should be part of it.
That includes Tlaib, and quite a few others- turds in the congressional punchbowl.

 

Do you have a history book?

 

They are in the WB where the fascist state of Israel is colonizing it.

The only destruction of a country that is being done, is Israel destroying Palestine by their war criminal colonizing ways.
Every year the Jewish homeland blasts the news how they are going to create new colonies and enlarge their existing colonies.
Where is the assurance for Palestine that them fascist remain at their border, something they haven't done for +50 years in a row?
And the problem is that you're just like them war criminals and support the destruction of Palestine.
What is happening now is only the reaction to this provocation.

 

Colonizing and building homes is not justification for intentional murder of babies and raping of women and children. Wtf

 

I had someone try to justify targeting civilians to me stating that as Israel has a military draft, all of them are in the military. Course, that doesn't make rape less of a war crime. On top of that defense being complete BS. That's like saying any Palestinians can strap a bomb to a baby. So they're all terrorists.

 

I don't have one where countries got provoked into colonizing an other.

 

The colonization comes with terrorism, my friend. People, even Americans, have crushed to death by bulldozers.
And this has been going on for +50 years, and the Jewish state has absolutely no intent to stop these unprovoked war crimes.
The civilian population of that Jewish homeland keeps on voting for them Jew colonies.
About all them Israeli Jews join the IDF to crush people to death with bulldozers if they must to make that war crime happen.
Them colonies and the terror that comes with it, is unprovoked and intentionally. Hamas is it's reaction.
The leader, as so many in Gaza, is a child born in Gaza because Jews deported their parents in that open air prison.
The parents of the leader of Hamas's town has been completely bulldozered to erase the Arab heritage and build a new Jewish city on top.
So no. It's not a justification. It's a reaction. It's on Israel, it's Jews and it's cheerleaders who are the cause of treating Arab civilians as soldiers.

 

Huh? Biden and Fascism, or something else. The Democrat party is about money, power and CONTROL. The GOP is about money.

Pick your poison.

 

I agree Talib needs to temper down her comment. She can support Palestine and she can be against giving Israel the support they need.

But where she get completely wrong; when she doesn’t condemn Hamas, when she doesn’t ask Hamas to stop firing rocket, when she call POTUS, leader of her own party “ committing genocide”.

I hope a more moderate candidate challenge her in primary. There are two DEMS super PACs already working on this. I would love to see her lose to a moderate Democrats.

Today, it’s easy for Muslims to threating Biden not to vote for him because election is not today, and 24/7 America is watching what is going on in Gaza. Many Americans, even people like me who unconditionally support Israel, sympathize the suffering in Gaza. But a year from now, I hope things settle down, it will be lot harder for Muslims to say to Biden “ Last year you didn’t support Palestine so we will not vote for you”.

But here is a greater question for Muslims -American, Arab/ME-American. Are they single issue voter who only care what is happening in ME, or are they American citizen who care about American value or American issue – freedom of choice, freedom of religion, woman’s right to chose, western democracy, free trade or not, energy policy or healthcare policy, education policy, what kind of judiciary system America should have, immigration and border security, gun rights and many other issue which effect every day American. Or they only care what is going on in ME.

They can be opposite side of these issue just like liberals and conservative, republican and democrat are. But if they think they really don’t care any of these issue, they only vote based on “what is going on in ME, then my question is “Are they really American”?

 

Yeah, I have to ask about that. What "support" does Israel "need" here??

Certainly, they have the military capability to send Hamas forward to the Stone Age (lol)

This administration didn't fully trust this Israeli administration even before these horrible attacks, so I'm not sure full political support is in the works.

Yes, the bulk of the free world is going to support Israel to defend itself, and that means fully going on the offensive (which Ukraine has never been allowed to do).

What support does Israel NEED here?

 

We can go round and round on all the things Israel needs. But let’s start with the simplest one.

Since OCT 7, Hamas fired 8500+ rocket toward Israel. It cost Israel 60k to stop one rocket, that is half a billion US dollar.

 

Israel is already receiving $3.3 billion per year from the US, just saying. That's almost $500 per resident. Probably not much less than what a lot of US retirees receive in SS, after paying in all of their lives.

 

I'm not saying EVENTUALLY, we might have to replenish the Israel coffers, but I'm pretty sure they have enough on hand to put down a small but powerful localized adversary without US $$

 

Comparing?! Understate much? Russia has the most to gain from world chaos, you either can't conceed that fact or worse, they are many Putin spinners. I am going with the first....

 

There is no rational perspective that Isreal are in the wrong here.

They are and always have retaliated against palestinian aggression.