Armed homeowner who defended family in driveway shoot-out says he's been stripped of gun permit

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  1. Sleep Monster

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    Majority rules. States' rights. The right keeps harping on those ideals when it suits them, but dismiss the law as "liberal" when it doesn't.
     
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    California is most definitely not a concealed carry state. See #97.
     
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    I was referring to the claim my source was unacceptable because it was considered right leaning.. Maybe more attention to the previous post and the corresponding one after it?
     
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    Actually, it appears that the reason he may have been targeted is because one of his three businesses is a weed shop.

    https://larchmontbuzz.com/larchmont...omeowner-speaks-out-against-increasing-crime/
     
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    Regarding item 1, he must also show legitimate cause to obtain a CC permit in California. My mother was able to obtain one without too much trouble after being victimized by a man with a gun. He went to jail, and she took the training to get her permit.
     
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    It's called the reasonable man assumption. He has a right to ensure he and his family are safe and either making sure his assailants are either dead or have completely vacated the premises and he and his family are safe.
     
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    Is it really your opinion that CC permits and the ability to use a gun should only apply to men?
     
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    Because he would have refused to cooperate and resisted an arrest and gone for a weapon?
     
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    Seriously, women needn't bother to defend themselves?

    Cool. I guess I'll sell mine. I could use the money.
     
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    Taken? Or suspended?
     
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    Not if you're white. ;-) It does piss them off, though.
     
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    He probably was very upset. Anyone would be. But as I know from experience, once you lose your temper, all anyone else can see is someone who is possibly unstable. Police rarely take chances. They can always reinstate his CC permit after things calm down.
     
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    He's a tea drinker? Danged tea drinkers are annoying and should be wiped off the face of the earth. :mrgreen:

    Dude, get some coffee! :coffeemachine:
     
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    Your rights? No. They'll just take away your ability to readily act out your (understandable) anger until you can calm down and think reasonably.

    I think you're jumping the gun on this. Pun intended.
     
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    To what? If I can’t see it I cannot rebut it but bottom line remains - Australia is a safer society than America

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

    Reason why we don’t win out over Iceland is that everyone is afraid of our snakes and drop bears!
     
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    Unarmed people expressing outrage is not even remotely comparable to dealing with a raging man with a gun. Ask any cop who they'd rather deal with.
     
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    Which begs a question - why the hostility?
     
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    I thought about linking you to information about the hundreds of BLM protesters who were arrested, charged, tried, and sentenced, but then I remembered that I've given you that information before, a long time ago, and here you are, spewing the same tired bullshit.

    I've added you to my list of one trick ponies.
     
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    Not in California.

    More likely, it was in response to his losing his cool. Understandable anger, maybe, but the police did not take his gun, just revoked his CC permit, meaning that the gun must now remain within his home. He'll likely get the CC permit back after the dust settles.
     
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    Maybe not change the subject when someone points out an error? You knew exactly what I meant.
     
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    That explains why he was granted a CC permit. It's unfortunately well known that cannabis businesses are cash only. Hopefully, they'll decriminalization it nation wide, so that those businesses can operate the same as the local wine shop or shoe store.

    It doesn't seem, from your article, that such was their motive, given that the neighborhood was made aware of burglars operating there prior to thin incident.

    As I previously stated, the righties here are jumping the gun. It's most likely that he'll get his permit back, especially given the business he's in (of which I fully approve, btw ... :smoking: )
     
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    Is that an actual law? Does it apply to all states? Does it apply to women?

    It is reasonable to expect one to defend family and home, but it is very far from reasonable to assume that legal gun owners are all reasonable, rational people when under duress.
     
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    Adredaline, frustration, general distrust of cops....who knows. Maybe their questions pissed him off. Most cops have low tolerance for people having an attitude with them.

    Yes, I think he simply lost his cool and started telling the cops how to do their jobs.
     
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    Because he screamed at the police. You don't actually believe that the police in that very upscale neighborhood would treat black men the same as white, do you? (Apologies, off-topic .. I probably shouldn't have brought it up, since it isn't relative to this thread.)
     
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    See #105. The linked article has more detail, and explains why Ricci was able to obtain a CC permit in California. It also explains why he was so frustrated in slow or weak police response to known criminal activity in the area. BTW, Larchmont is between downtown Los Angeles and Beverly Hills. Very expensive real estate.
     
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