Armed homeowner who defended family in driveway shoot-out says he's been stripped of gun permit

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not agree with needing permits to concealed carry, I believe that is the polite way to carry, and one should not have to ask the gov permission to be polite

    the gov knows you are more likely to be harassed if you open carry, by both police and citizens as it causes some fear

    it's like a man's privates, if you're concealing in public, no one cares, out of sight, out of mind
     
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  2. dairyair

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    It's likely a criminal investigation since shots were fired.

    And if found to be in the correct side of the law, will have all his privileges returned.
    Likely just SOP.
     
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    Racist nonsense. Shame on you.
     
  4. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same is true for the Jan 6 rioters. The right continues to repeat Trump's claim that those who were incarcerated are innocent political prisoners who did nothing worse that take selfies within the Capitol.

    How's that for back at ya?
     
  5. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That in no way answers my question. Do you claim that only the masculine are capable of handling firearms? Because, last time I went to the local range to practice my aim, I was wearing a skirt.
     
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    Nope, LA does issue them, and quite a few have them
     
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    All laws requiring Americans to obtain a "permit" to own and carry a gun are unconstitutional and irrational.
     
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    Please cite the law you claim applies to all states.

    Speaking for myself, I do have good anger control when threatened, but not so much when insulted. I have good reasons for that.

    Most of us will never be tested in the manner in which this man was, and that's a good thing. It isn't fun or exciting.
     
  9. Sleep Monster

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    Sure, you can scream at the cops, but I wouldn't advise it, especially not if you obviously have a gun. Too many angry, raging people have been known to cause a lot of harm, and if the police don't know you, they can't know your intent or capabilities when not thinking clearly.

    This is simple logic. Try to put yourself in the officers' shoes.
     
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    That's a nasty, mean reply. Careful, your mindless hatred is showing.
     
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    And yet, it was in Los Angeles County, where I was born and raised, that my mother was issued a permit to carry concealed. This was about 20 years ago.
     
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    IOW, you should be able top carry a concealed handgun without a permit. Think it through.
     
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    I don't believe this guy was armed at the time and was upset the police were spoiling evidence of the ground that might be needed in a defense.
     
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    Go choose your own source search reasonable person standard and you'll get a page full.
     
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    The guy in the story was from LA, and had a carry permit.
     
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    That wasn't what you asked. You asked a question about women, and it was completely irrelevant since he said masculine.
     
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    Most had no charges to bring. They were let in, and were peaceful.
     
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    Either you are ignorant of life in America or you are a liberal news junkie....which is pretty much the same thing.
     
  19. Sleep Monster

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    Where did I even remotely imply any such thing?
     
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    He didn't need to have it in his hand, ffs. The police were called to the scene of a shooting. :disbelief:
     
  21. Sleep Monster

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    Went there, did that.

    It is not ... repeat, NOT ... a law. It is a consideration in a court of law, used to determine the amount of liability, not as an overarching defense. Judges use information about a defendant's character and the circumstances under which the offense took place in order to determine sentencing.

    That's why I keep repeating here that this man was in a singularly intense emotional state, so police revoked his CC permit because they did not know his actual character, and will likely reinstate it once things have calmed down and he's been deemed to be a solid citizen.
     
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    I think perhaps you should allow the user to whom I replied to speak for himself, because you make no sense.
     
  23. Sleep Monster

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    Same goes for most of the BLM protesters.

    Can you really not see the hypocrisy?
     
  24. Sleep Monster

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    On contrary, I'm an avid student of history. The worst mass butchers in history were almost all white men, aside from a few notable exceptions. Try this reference:

    https://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

    The black men on this list were amateurs. They don't even enter the list until the number of victims falls below 1 million.
     
  25. Injeun

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    This isn't about your opinions of world history. This is about crime in America today.
     
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