Soldier Blasts Biden After Getting Charged for Gear He Left in Afghanistan

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Yeah! I wonder what would have happened if Trump HAD been in charge during the final pull out. Oh! What AM I thinking! It all would have been everyone else’s fault of course!
     
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    Do you have a CIB?
     
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    Well we'll never know. What we do know is that biden royally screwed it up.

    You can speculate on fantasy scenarios all you want, I'll stick with what actually happened.
     
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    You mean the fact that Trump set it up to fail by releasing prisoners, putting a nonnegotiable time line in place and basically leaving a huge domestic mess that took precedent?
     
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    Obviously you forgot about 9/11, but if one is an Alex Jones fan, 9/11 was an inside job. :)
     
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    Hurry! Tell me the powerball numbers before you lose the psychic gift!

    So trump failed to actually get us out outside of telling terrorists that he would and then releasing some of them, Biden then did get us out but it’s really trump that did it almost a year after he was out of office and democrats (who held the executive and legislative branches at the time) would have preferred to keep us there?

    Did I get all what you are trying to say?










    :roflol:
    Thanks Biden!

    So much for the psychic predictions LOL
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    What you stated in the OP – “A former Army soldier is blaming the Biden administration after he says he was ordered to pay for gear he brought home from his last deployed mission in Afghanistan.” This made me first believe that the soldier brought his gear back from Afghanistan and took it to his home failing to turn it in. In such a case, being charged for the gear not properly turned in would be proper.


    But the article stated something different – The solider said, "They want to charge me $500 to $1,000 for gear I was ordered to leave in Afghanistan two years ago because as the last two birds were sitting on the tarmac ready to leave, there wasn't any room for extra gear, extra weight. Therefore, we were told to leave it.”


    It turns out, the soldier was told to leave his gear in Afghanistan. If such was the case, then he shouldn’t be charged for it. Normally, his gear would be written off as a combat loss. Unless something has changed since I retired from the Army back in 1986 which is entirely possible. The soldier it seems, was just following orders. As such he shouldn’t be charged. Especially since we left probably billions of dollars of equipment behind in Afghanistan.


    It was a botched withdrawal, a much too fast withdrawal not giving us, the U.S. military enough time to get the equipment we wanted out, out. To determine which we wanted to keep and return to the U.S. and which was to be turned over to the Afghan’s. Charging this soldier for web gear left behind seems petty to asinine to me.
     
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    I agree it had to be bipartisan, Trump shares some of the blame if the withdrawal, thus neither party can attack the other
     
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    Don't need to be a soldier or have military service to understand that gear issued to someone by the government where DoD policy, Army Regulations, and so forth stipulate that the gear issued to you that you are responsible for. That is one of the first things they teach you when your gear is issued.

    If it is damaged, or other approved action per the regs, in some way while using it, it can be replaced, assuming you have the proper authorizations from your sergeant to get a new whatever at the quartermaster. Army Regulation 710-2 and 58-1 pretty much cover the responsibilities soldiers have when gear is issued to them.
     
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    "set up to fail" is your lefty talking point, not fact.

    Biden royally screwed it up. There was almost nobody save for forum hyper partisans like yourself who defended him over it.
     
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    You knew what I meant in both cases.

    Taking things out of context or taking them literally when you actually knew what they meant is a sign you have a weak argument.

    I believe we'd still be in afghanistan if not for trump. I believe that because there's absolutely nothing that suggests otherwise. Getting us out of wars is not what the democrats do.

    I don't think there's any objective person who thinks that if we hadn't had a deal in place, from trump, that biden would've gotten us out. If you'd like to point to some evidence that suggests we'd be out if the deal wasn't in place please provide it.

    Or you could do what you always do and grossly twist what I say so you have an argument. I'm pretty sure you can't do that so I'm guessing we're done here.
     
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    Says the one predicting the future on an alternate timeline of events

    I don’t care what you believe.

    I care what exists in reality

    Indeed we are. I will continue to deal in reality while you have your feelings.

    trump did not exit the war
    Biden did

    Cheers
     
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    Perhaps the soldier should have racked up student debt instead of serving the country.
     
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    Not sure that’s a better idea
     
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    Somebody has to make up for the Trump Tax Scam loss to US coffers....might as well be these suckers and losers....
     
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    Something is fishy. Instead of disputing the charges, the first thing he does is ask for donations.

    Reminds me of the postal worker who claimed having intimate knowledge of election fraud, the asked for donations because the deep-state USPS was after him.
     
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    Well since you keep repeating the lie, and refuse to accept facts, i guess we should all just agree with you ?

    Trump pulled out BEFORE Biden took office. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

    BTW, this country is doomed as the right keeps repeating lies long after they are proven lies.
     
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    And you are WRONG…yet AGAIN

    https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...nited-states-16cc1dd5b2f74d463311d212ad0d215a

    Note that this is 6 days before Biden took office…



    Sleep well ;)
     
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    Then please show us your proof of anything they stated being incorrect ?

    pssst…The pentegon is the source for their reporting……..
     
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    Now that's a pants on fire lie, since Biden cited Trump's agreement as the reason for the withdrawal. And if one means Trump's comments after the fact, it's because the Taliban had reneged on the agreement, which is what allowed the attacks to happen in the first place.

    High Command has both dropped the ball, and blamed lower officials during and after the incident, and it shows a lack of capability within the Pentagon moving forward.

    Biden is the center of said High Command. The failure of the Pentagon is entirely his to burden.
     
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    Sure, and the failure to get it done in 4 years is on trump. Make excuses all you want, Biden did what trump couldn’t.
     
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    However, his point is valid... Nobody can truly determine what happens in that empty cavern of a head, but his actions indicated that getting TF out of AF was also a goal of Trump (although for the life of me, I cannot determine what he would get personally out of it)

    But, as you pointed out, one talked and one made it happen (albeit in a very ugly fashion)

    Add his seeming desire to get out of AF to his push for COVID vaccines as some of the few logical days of his failed presidency...
     
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    To be honest it was always going to be a **** show. America has never managed withdrawal well, unless of course you count the withdrawal from Iraq which Biden also did
     
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    Poor rightist service member. I'm sure he would much prefer staying in Afghanistan with his gear rather than having to deal with a temporary billing mistake that was fixed.

    LOL, rightists........always playing the victims.
     
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    WTAF ?

    How many times do we have to not only show that time is linear, but to show that Trump LITERALLY removed all but 2500 troops from Afghanistan just days before Biden took office ? And he himself had accelerated the withtdrawl timelines. These are just Facts, but why do we have to keep repeating them ?

    The withdrawl from Afghanistan was NOT on Joe Biden. It was a political trap set by Donald Trump. Joe had a Sophie’s choice, he could re-engage more troops, or he could exit the 2500 and let the afghanis be taken over by the Taliban, either way it gave the right fodder against Joe. These are just facts.

    Personally I think he knew what he was doing, and this was a 100% political move.
     

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