Can you handle the truth?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    When the dust settles, the American people are going to know who the bad guys are and who the good guys, are. And the bad guys aren't us.

    Joe is a decent human being.

    Trump isn't.

    Hunter is a private citizen, who really doesn't matter, though most of the allegations and charges are unwarranted.

    We get it, you don't like the Bidens.

    Well, we don't like Trump, and our reasons are factual, yours are straws.

    It's really that simple.

    And now, ladies and gentlemen, the truth:



    TRANSCRIPT:

    Donald Trump says jump, the MAGA extremists say how high. Donald Trump asked them to impeach Joe Biden, and here we are.

    They broke the law trying to stop Joe Biden from becoming president.

    They broke the law trying to violently overturn the election to prevent Joe Biden from taking office.

    And now they are waging this extreme political stunt by abusing and weaponizing the impeachment process.

    They tried to overturn the election on January 6th, and now they want to finish the job. Today, Democrats on the rules committee will make a simple case to the American people:

    First, that Joe Biden is a man of decency and integrity who respects the law, and this impeachment charade is an extreme political stunt designed to help Donald Trump win.

    Second, that every absurd Republican allegation against Joe Biden has been debunked.

    Third, that despite this fraudulent process, Republicans have received extraordinary cooperation from the White House.

    Fourth, that Republicans are doing this because they are focused on the wrong priorities and want to distract from their total failure to get anything done.

    And when this is all over, I am confident that the American people will overwhelmingly agree that this whole impeachment stunt is a national disgrace.

    And the truth is, folks, that Republicans can't handle the truth.

    PS, I've asked the mod to move this thread to the politics/opinions forum
     
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    Firstly. Wrong forum.

    secondly. Lots of projection here.

    The bad guys are the Democrats attacking our democracy with vaguely written laws and thier absurd interpretations of them in order to attack political opponents in thier irrational crusade.

    Brandon is a corrupt fool, as was Hillary. But I'm aware that the lefts idolized them beyond reproach already.

    Dems created this division, and corrupted our impeachment process. Now it will become the norm.

    Though clearly, to answer the question, dems won't be able to handle the truth.
     
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    Could anyone possibly fawn and gush over the lying conniving and self enriching manipulator that Joe Biden is, anymore?

    I can't imagine what it takes to believe the man is totally innocent
     
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    To point out that the RW echo chamber is spreading lies about Joe Biden is not “fawning” over him.
     
  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    But pretending that he is innocent and that the bastard doesn't sit here and lie to people repeatedly, is.

    That takes some real rose colored partisan glasses
     
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    He is innocent until proven guilty. And so far, all the RW echo chamber has done is spread lies about him being corrupt. There’s no evidence he is corrupt. None. Zero.

    As for lying - he probably lies as much as other presidents other than Trump. Trump is in a league of his own. He sometimes spouts multiple lies in a single sentence.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Progressive liberal policies have done more harm in the last 50 years than any other contributing factor in our nation's history.

    By a long shot.

    You can claim the high road and sit on your pedestal all you want, but your perspective is based solely on your opinions.

    In any case, it has zero merit in reality. In my opinion, the dust is already settling and more and more people see the agenda and outcomes of progressivism and collectivism and are running the opposite direction.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It removes all credibility from the person.

    How does somebody serving the entirety of their adult life in "public service" contributing absolutley nothing to any type of economic growth and actually leeching from it while amassing a 10 million dollar net worth.

    But the leeches of society that elect these candidates for life long tenure couldn't care less because they want their handouts.

    It's everything wrong with our government.
     
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  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You didn't read the last line:

    PS, I've asked the mod to move this thread to the politics/opinions forum
    No evidence on Joe

    Oh, democrats didn't attack the capital or engage in a unlawful conspiracy to subvert the election.

    I don't think you're argument carries much weight
     
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  10. Patricio Da Silva

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    You'd have a point if you had any evidence which you don't.
     
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    It's useless. You can play a tape of Trump saying he abused women, they'll say it was fabricated. You can show a court decision in which it was adjudicated that he sexually abused women, they'll say it was the Deep State.

    Giuliani comes out of a court hearing where he is being sued because he falsely accused poll workers of rigging the elections, and he give a press conference in which he again accuses the poll workers of rigging the election.

    It's not as simple as them not being able to "handle" the truth. They just made up their own little universe and they're not going to come out of it for decades to come. In their world, Trump is the deity. And he DID create their universe. So there, he actually IS a deity in their universe. And in that universe, whatever Trump says is The Word. Everything else is either fabricated, or product of a conspiracy.
     
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    Any mistatements of facts by Joe pales compared to Trump. So if you're really cared about lies, you'd hold Trump in utter contempt, which you do not. So your fake outrage is noted.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I can't believe you're saying these things. Joe has had more accomplishments in his first three hundred days, than trump had in four years.
     
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    Government officials are incapable of achieving ANYTHING without leeching from the private sector and "accomplishing" some net loss project that leaves everybody a little worse off from the start.

    Government has zero money, zero ability to pay employees, and zero ability to raise funds. Every single thing they do must be accomplished by reaching into the pockets of actual earners, stealing a piece of the fruits of their labor, and whispering "in here to help".

    For somebody to do that for nearly 50 years, amassing tens of millions of dollars, and pretending their efforts were a net positive are just kidding themselves. But yet, people buy into it and vote them in, because they are the beneficiary of the net loss on everybody else.
     
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    Reminds me of the book, Animal Farm. They also knew the difference between good and ba'a'a'a'd!

    The dust will never settle. Both parties will stir up more dust out-pettying the other. I agree that impeachment is not good for the country and that Joe is less capable of handling the trump-treatment.
     
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    He is not "innocent until proven guilty" anymore in the court of public opinion.... if that is one thing we have learned the last 6 years is that.. With the J6 committee show trial and the impeachment trial in the basement dungeon star chamber......REMEMBER.... THIS IS NOT A COURT ROOM.... Comer is just looking for the truth... just like the J6 committee..

    Comer has proven that Joe Biden was involved in his son's business multiple times, with receipts, testimony , documentation, and pictures... As for Bribery and money laundering and influence peddling, Joe does not have to receive money to be involved in any of it...

    Here is four pages worth of evidence of corruption... What did Joe know and when did he know it... PROVE ANY OF IT WRONG...

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-third-bank-memo-detailing-payments-to-the-bidens-from-russia-kazakhstan-and-ukraine/

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo.pdf

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Redacted-doc.pdf
     
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    Of course not. This 'impeachment" effort is vendetta, revenge for Trumps appropriate impeachments times TWO The Trumpians are so angry that their dear leader is being EXPOSED for what he is ......so they go into attack mode targeting Biden..... washout any tangible evidence. This is political dirty tactics .And it is all about defaming Biden so as to "elevate" Trump from the cesspool he resides in .and trying to get Trump installed in office again.

    It is concerning that the Trumpian continue to PROJECT Trumps issues onto Biden. That is pretty low. Biden is not perfect............but heCARES, is humane, unselfish, and wants what is best for the population.........and is trying to achieve that against the resistance of the R.....who resist just to have their way .... but not in the best interest of the people.
    Can they handle the truth?? No....as they don't care about the truth, or facts......they only care about what Trump says .(and his lies / fabrications have been well documented for all to read.....if they want the truth about him) He has made FACT CHEKCING a full time job.
     
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    So, when does that truth begin? As usual the classic war of words just provides more:

    hogwash.jpg
     
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    No human is totally innocent above the age of about 3 or 4. I think the comparison is to Trump, which makes it accurate, IMO.
     
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    Pot kettle black..... Keep making excuses and playing down his lies. I'm sure he appreciates the help
     
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    How do you know this? Because he told you so? Joe lies unnecessarily. You cannot believe a word he says.
     
  23. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I can't take you seriously.

    I'm putting you on ignore.
     
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    I read the last line, you shouldnt have posted it there in the first place.

    The evidence on Joe is clear. But dems dont ever get jsutice.
     
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    In fact, you make as many misstatements of fact as Joe does.

    I cannot believe a word you say.

    Welcome to the club.
     
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