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Can you handle the truth?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Dec 13, 2023.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    My devotion is to the truth.

    Biden is a decent man.

    Trump isn't.

    And you can't handle it.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Prove it.

    You can't.

    There is no proof.

    None

    Zip

    Zilch

    Squat

    Nada

    As in nadagawddamnthing.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Weasel words

    There is no 'we' other than MAGA cult followers in the religion of Trump, 'orange Jesus'.

    People care about the truth

    Biden is a decent man.

    Trump isn't.

    And you can't handle the truth.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes,

    First off, the long time tradition to get things done in Washington is compromise. Dems want this, Repubs want that, to get something done they compromise so that, though no one gets everything they want, each get something enough to get something done and something is always seen as better than nothing.


    I disagree with Nikki Haley's politics, but she is a decent human being. Not agreeing with one's politics doesn't make them an indecent human being, these are two separate things.

    As for Ukraine, in the realm of foreign policy, using leverage to achieve foreign policy goals is common and Republican claims against the video have long since debunked, most notably of which was that Republicans at the time, supported the policy, not to mention the state department, our allies and the Internationals Monetary Fund, to remove Shokin. Threat threat of withholding loan guarantees worked famously to that end. Everyone wanted Shokin (Ukraine AG) removed because he WAS NOT DOING HIS JOB, which was fighting corruption in Ukraine. Obama, the IMF et al did not want to loan Ukraine money at that time because of the pervasive corruption going on in Ukraine at the time. You're beating a dead horse that died years ago.

    Your premise fails.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  5. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Can you handle the truth? Trump is ahead in every swing state.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/#!
     
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    independentthinker, Dec 14, 2023
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  6. garyd

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    Not the Truth or even close to it.
     
    garyd, Dec 14, 2023
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The 1 or 2 states that will decide the elections are not known And until then it could be in any 1 or 2 of the dozen battleground states.. The fourth year of Reagan's first term he was at 50% and won mightily.

    We are almost a year out he doesn't have that far to climb In the battleground states and things are getting better all the time and Trump will be in court during that time. And democrats have some killer videos prepared during the fourth year. it aint over till it's over and you're counting your chickens before they are hatched.

    Trump might be convicted before then and there goes your independents

    Not only that, in the first 2 primaries states Biden was written off completely. And he won did he not? Never underestimate Joe Biden

    People right now are bamboozled by all the right-wing spin against Biden and hunter. But the truth will come out. Politics Is a pendulum-- swing One way for too long. It will swing the other way very quickly. Don't count your political chickens before they are hatched.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Comment not substantive.

    Dismissed.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  9. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if you can't debate facts, then do what you have to do.

    Government has zero ability to create wealth. That's a fact.
     
    jcarlilesiu, Dec 14, 2023
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  10. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you capable of defending Biden without "but Trump"?

    If not, I think a little self reflection of your own objectivity is in order.
     
    jcarlilesiu, Dec 14, 2023
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  11. Bullseye

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
    Bullseye, Dec 14, 2023
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    As is your trump hate crap.
     
    garyd, Dec 14, 2023
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  13. independentthinker

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    Ummmmmmm, the more charges you bring against Trump, the more independents are going for him.
     
    independentthinker, Dec 14, 2023
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  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's' not an argument.

    Dismissed.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  15. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Comment is a cop out.

    Dismissed.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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    Your comment is but turd polishing.
     
    garyd, Dec 14, 2023
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  17. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Weasel words (vague terms) and/or words tainted by emotion, given that they are impossible to substantiate, they are not an argument.

    Dismissed.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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    There's no argument - you proved my point completely.
     
    Bullseye, Dec 14, 2023
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    Yes you are but keep defending your bs if it makes you happy. There is a certain bit of dark humor in reading of democrats blind obeisance to the corrupt shills currently ruining the party many of them have worshiped for multiple generations.
     
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  20. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's a cop out.

    Dismissed.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  21. Bullseye

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    Nope.
     
    Bullseye, Dec 14, 2023
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    But you believe every word Joe tells you to believe.
    Amazing
     
    Condor060, Dec 14, 2023
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    He's a proven racist and his words speak for themselves.
    Would you like a list?

    A private citizen who sold his dads influence to foreign nationals, ran over 20 million through unregistered shell corps without tax IDs, and got caught.
    Your pony boy is going down for the criminal ****** bag he really is.
    And so is his criminal father.

    And no amount of your (Trumpy post) changes anything.
    I can't wait until ole pony boy is convicted on his tax felonies.
     
    Condor060, Dec 14, 2023
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  24. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Off topic.

    Please focus on the topic under discussion.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2023
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  25. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    You mean the topic of you can't handle the Truth?
     
    Condor060, Dec 14, 2023
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