Can you handle the truth?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No he's not.
    That's spin. The truth will defy you when it comes out.
    We get it, you hate the Bidens.
    You'll have to wait a long time.

    I'll take the odds of 92 felony counts over your 4 or 5 unwarranted tax counts.

    any day of the week, for a 'conviction' that will result in serious time.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am not the topic.

    Now, reread the prior comment.
     
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    So, According to you, these aren't racist comments spewed out by Biden

    Biden lectured about the fears that blacks may have of the vaccine,
    “They are used to being experimented on—the Tuskegee Airmen and others,”

    Biden infamously asserted to the largely black audience that if they were unsure of whether to vote for him or Trump, then “you ain’t black!

    Then in August 2020, Biden told a gathering of black and Hispanic journalists that “unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”

    In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

    In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

    In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

    He said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

    In 2019, Biden said, “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

    Biden made waves by suggesting people were able to quarantine during the coronavirus crisis because "some Black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf,"

    Biden told a Virginia audience that then-Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s financial regulation lifts would "put y'all back in chains."
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You've been bouncing around the right wing echo chamber for too long.

    That's just old school talk, off color, but it's not racist.

    And show me the videos, I don't take your word for anything.


    Hell, his boss was a black man for 8 years, and you're telling me he's racist?

    byrd's KKK thing was 50 years before he retired, and apologized for it many many times.

    I can' see where you are coming from.

    Innuendo. Twisted narratives, trash talking a good man.

    And you give the porn fornicating p*ssy grabber criminal pervert a pass.

    Your fake outrage is noted.

    While Ivanka sat next to Trump, a host ask her what she had in common with her dad,
    then Trump interjected and said 'SEX' and she look started.

    Your boy Trump is a pervert.

    You guys put two perverts on the Supreme court and one in the WH.


    He has 92 felony counts.

    There are more crimes in Republican WH than any other.

    the GOP is a runaway criminal enterprise.

    The GOP is a fuktangle of criminals, fraudsters, liars and perverts.

    indictments2.jpg

    And you can't handle the truth
     
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    Kat236 Well-Known Member

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    What??
     
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    First you did not address the FACT that biden is now trying to hold our border (and my families safety) hostage to get what he wants.

    This, after you and yours keep saying “we do not have a problem at the border”.
    Here is a video of biden not only admitting a problem with our border but now trying to use the problem HE CREATED to get his way.

    Also, you didn’t even address the video of biden admitting he withheld “the billion” to get the prosecutor fired to save his junkie kid from prosecution.

    Once again something you and your “claim” never happened.
     
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    Kat236 Well-Known Member

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    Could you please post this video, I haven’t seen it yet?
     
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    He has no idea what the truth and for democrats the truth is malleable anyway, As soon as the Dems decide joe is more of a hindrance than a help and won't mosey off into the sunset on his own they will jail him themselves. What did Menedez say that got the dems to write him off?
     
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    They only do as their media and government control them to do.
     
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    So Obama was the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.
    And our kids shouldn't grow up in a racial jungle because they can't go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless they have a slight Indian accent.
    Nothing racist here, RIght?
    Anyone who agrees with that talk is racist.

    You need videos for what Biden has historically claimed?
    So you are admitting you have no clue about anything Biden has stated about blacks?
    Which cave do you live in so we can all get you up to speed?




    Says the guy who doesn't even know Biden ever said anything posted

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden

    And Another Trumpy deflection because you can't defend Biden
     
  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You haven't been paying attention. I've debunked it many times, and it has been debunked by numerous credibles sources, many times. Do your homework.

    This from an old post, one among many:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...usion-of-access.612392/page-5#post-1074355991
    You are promulgating the old, tired, debunked lie that Biden's withholding of loan guarantees to Ukraine was an attempt to prevent the investigation of Burisma, given that Hunter Biden was on the board.

    At issue is this video, (link below) which many on the right falsely believe supports this conspiracy theory. But, context is missing. However, even without the context, there is nothing in the video that supports the claim.

    I've seen that video a number of times. There is ZERO evidence the video proves that objective had anything to do with Biden attempting to thwart investigation into Burisma. In fact, the evidence proves the OPPOSITE.

    Here are the multiple sourced FACTS.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...emember-signing-2016-letter-urging-reform-of/

    ““The United States, the European Union, the I.M.F., and Ukraine’s leading reform figures were all pressing for Viktor Shokin to be removed from office because he was one of the biggest obstacles to fighting corruption in the entire country. This was a bipartisan goal in Congress as well.”

    The withholding of loan guarantees spoken of by Biden in that video was the incentive to get the Poroshenko/Ukrainian Parliament to fire Shokin, the corrupt Ukraine prosecutor, which was the foreign policy of the United States, and the International Monetary Fund with the approval of Democrat and Senate Republicans, at that time.

    Why? Because Obama was wary of providing military support to Ukraine, at the time, given the massive corruption in the Country, and SHOKIN was NOT doing his job to fight corruption and naturally Obama didn't want taxpayer funds misappropriated in a corrupt country.

    That is precisely the OPPOSITE of the claim.

    What, do you (who believe the conspiracy theory) think a man with 30 years in the Senate would be stupid enough to admit to a federal crime on television? If you do, you are unaware of the facts and haven't thought it through.

    ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory

    The conspiracy theory alleges that then-Vice President Biden withheld loan guarantees to pressure Ukraine into firing a prosecutor to prevent a corruption investigation into Burisma and to protect his son. The United States did withhold government aid to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor, in accord with the official and bipartisan policy of the federal government of the United States. The US government, along with the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, believed the prosecutor to be corrupt and ineffective and too lenient in investigating companies and oligarchs, including Burisma and its owner. A January 2018 video shows Biden taking credit for withholding the loan guarantees to have the prosecutor fired, acting to implement bipartisan US policy rather than for the reasons the conspiracy theory alleges.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...r-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html

    Donald Trump said Ukraine’s former chief prosecutor was an honest, wronged man, fired after Joe Biden tried to shut down an investigation into his son’s gas company. In Kiev, Oliver Carroll speaks to people who know Viktor Shokin, and finds a different story


    Republicans wanted Shokin removed, as well:


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ctual-conspiracy-theory-or-anything-close-it/


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/poli...oed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...r-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html

    Factchecking right wing lies
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ecking-first-trump-biden-presidential-debate/

    (Even the GOP chairman of the Homeland Security Committee which spearheaded this report, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, backed the effort to remove Shokin, saying the “whole world” agreed he wasn’t doing a good job.)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...itical-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSL2N26E1AX

    April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the country’s government amid rising tensions with Russia.

    May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burisma’s founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britain’s Serious Fraud Office.

    Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.

    Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutor’s termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.

    March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.

    Jan. 23, 2018: Biden, at a Council on Foreign Relations event, detailed how he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine if Shokin was not removed.

    April 2019: Hunter Biden’s term as a Burisma board member expired and he stepped down from the company.

    May 16, 2019: Bloomberg quotes Ukraine’s current top prosecutor as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden or his father.


    I never said there wasn't a problem, there has always been a border problem.

    Name one president who has solved the border problem.

    Trump permanently separated thousands for children from their parents do to incompetent record keeping for a crime no worse than a misdemeanor.
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    I got one detail wrong, he was asked directly by the host 'what do you have in common with your daughter' and he replied 'I was going to say SEX'

    But, that IS what he said.

     
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    I knew I saved this video for a good reason:



    You have been screaming biden’s innocence for so long now.

    Suddenly you have a video before you where biden admits he held my fellow taxpayers and my tax dollars hostage to save his junkie kid, who happens to be 50 something.

    Going forward, paddy, we won’t quote each other, if you don’t quote my posts I won’t dig up videos that that show your hero (you know, the guy who made his fortune on our tax dollars, and likely couldn’t function under the regime he created) admitting his guilt.

    Man, just one question, why do you believe this career politician when there is obvious video of his guilt?

    ….and please don’t make did stuff up, just a straight answer on why you believe what you believe up until now.
     
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    Wow, you nailed that.

    I wasn’t going to say anything, but you posted the video paddy: you sir have a very sick mind.

    I showed this video, the one you posted, to many of the folks I come into contact with daily (both dem,and repub supporters) and their response was:
    He was saying he’s a guy and she’s a girl.

    Man you are way over the top on this.

    Once again: my prediction is: President Trump will not be re-elected, and you will get to enjoy bidens ruining of our country after the 2024 election.

    You still didn’t address the senile biden videos I posted.
     

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