The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

As an automotive engineer I always have to wonder who in the heck approved those buses for use in the first place given that they're clearly not up to the task?

And don't worry, I'm sure you don't have the answer to that.

 

As an "automotive engineer" I have to WONDER why you are NOT questioning the SOURCE here?

Having originally taken this at FACE VALUE, my mistake, I have tried to find the ORIGIN of this story,

There is NOTHING remotely CREDIBLE about electric busses not running in Oslo in the LEGITIMATE news media.

Lots of CRAP in the Climate Denier space but NOTHING credible elsewhere.

 

". . . The company claims . . . ."
Hmmm. A claim from China . . . .

 

aussiedlerbote.de/.
and:

Electric buses could not withstand the cold in Oslo

The Nordic Times
https://nordictimes.com › the-nordics › norway › elect...



4 days ago — The reason was that the new electric buses could not cope with the cold. On Monday, about 50 city buses were cancelled and taken out of service.


Brand new electric buses paralyzed in Oslo

SOTT.net
https://www.sott.net › article › 486870-Brand-new-ele...



7 days ago — Oslo, Norway - Winter is here and with it the freezing cold. And now public transport is also paralyzed. Oslo's brand new fleet of electric ...

 

As an actual automotive engineer I don't need to rely on the credibility of news sources. I already know that EVs don't do well in cold weather and I know that Oslo is in Norway which gets really cold in winter (I once spent a week working in Sweden in January. You can trust that it gets really cold, and really dark, up there.

And then there's the whole China aspect to it and I know China has never been able to produce a vehicle that can be sold in the US.

Therefore common sense says it makes sense.

Your mileage may vary.

 

News·Jalopnik
High-Mileage Drivers Aren't Buying EVs And That's A Problem

While a transition towards electric vehicles has steadily taken hold to combat climate change, EVs aren’t filling up city streets and highways in proportional numbers to sales. Scientific American found that gas vehicles were driven 62.4 percent more than EVs between 2016 and 2022, based on odometer readings. The environmental impact of EVs could be overestimated if electric cars aren’t being relied on by high-mileage drivers or used as daily drivers for multi-vehicle households.

The notion that most people are buying electric vehicles and keeping a gas-powered car for long-distance trips might as well be wishful thinking. While that is true, the magazine’s own study found that the overall mileage gap between the two powertrain types is so severe that these households can’t offset the deficit on their own. . . . .

 

US·KTTV
Tesla Cybertruck owners get warning from US Forest Service
". . . Video shows the Cybertruck, with a Christmas tree in the back, spinning its wheels and stuck on a hill as a Ford truck slowly pulls the car uphill. . . ."

 

A friend in an EV drove 150 miles to see a relative on Saturday, and came back today, Monday. Couldn't charge from their relatives house and they won't use a public charge point because they're expensive. Never put the cars heating on due to worrying there wouldn't be sufficient charge to get home, and was this frozen to the bone.

Some technological advances are actually a step backwards, if not two.

 

So they completed a 300 mile round trip on a SINGLE CHARGE in the WINTER when batteries will have the worst performance?

Sounds like a GREAT testament to the RANGE of EV's already available to commuters.

Too bad they never told you how much range they had left over which could have been used for heating.

 

I noticed this part that was ignored by someone here:

Some people just ignore it for a cause which is a factor on why EV's are not effective vehicles that generates too much worry and discomfort, be absurdly expensive and hard to find a reliable charging station.

 

Business·Detroit Free Press
GM buys out nearly half of its Buick dealers across the country, who opt to not sell EVs

 

Hint: The answer is "Yes."

Are electric cars more expensive to insure?

Yahoo Personal Finance

 

She sat in a cold car, 3c to 5c.

It's a Kia something. Better off in an ICE vehicle.

 

Well, I suppose it's range anxiety. I could have done that journey twice in my van with a fuel tank and the heater on. When fully filled, it does 625 mile range. My van cost £9,800, that EV is £54,000. It's a no brainer and alarmists claim EV's are the future. No wonder why they need legislation.

 

If the heater wasn't working in an ICE vehicle she would have been just as cold.

You NEVER told us how much RANGE she had left after traveling 300 MILES in 3c to 5c WEATHER which is IMPRESSIVE for an EV.

 

She chose not to use the EV heater to save power.

 

So what?

She COMPLETED 300 MILES in FREEZING weather in an EV which is quite a FEAT.

All we need to know is how much SPARE range did she have LEFT that she COULD have used for HEATING?

If the EV had a HEAT PUMP it could have SHARED the heat from the DISCHARGING batteries at NO additional range penalty.

 

She would have completed the trip while staying warm in an ICE vehicle.

 

NOT if the HEATER was broken, she would have been in the IDENTICAL situation.

If fact if her heater was broken the odds are she would NOT have been able to DRIVE anywhere because it is part of the COOLING system.

She she was BETTER off in a cold EV than STRANDED by the roadside in her ICE waiting for a tow truck in the freezing cold.

 

Sorry, but your hypothetical disabled heater is improbably rare.
And no, a functioning heater is not important to the car's cooling system.

 

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAA!

So the ardent SUPPORTER of ICE doesn't even KNOW how the HEATERS work?

Hilarious.

This was a KIA, right?

https://www.browndaubkia.com/why-is...ant (usually a mixture,cold air into your car.




KIA themselves STIPULATE that the heater is part of the Cooling system and that the ICE will OVERHEAT if there is NO coolant thereby STRANDING the driver in the FREEZING cold.

ICE lessons 101.

 

Sorry, but even your own link doesn't claim a malfunctioning heater prevents the ICE vehicle from running. A malfunctioning cooling system would, but that doesn't require the heater. You have cause and effect backwards.

 

Non-existent "expertise" content duly noted above.

It is a SINGLE coolant system.

When one aspect FAILS it impacts the REST of the system.

ICE lessons 101 AGAIN.

 

The manufacturers website says the range is a purported maximum 328 miles.

328 miles is poor. So it's 151 miles there and 151 miles back. Probably free wheeled down hill, lol

 

It was an EV!

When EV's go DOWNHILL they REGENERATE energy and put it BACK into the battery.

EV basics 101.