When will Texas kick Joe Biden off their ballot?

Barring an actual conviction in a criminal court of law with proper due process, I don't think either side should try to remove the opponent from the ballot. It's an incredibly un-American thing to do. The voters have a right to be heard. The Republicans send the wrong message by trying to do likewise as some sort of tit for tat. If you truly believe it's the wrong thing to do, it's equally wrong for them to do it. Maybe not quite equally, but I think you get my point. Wrong is wrong.

 

Case law is clear.

Free Enter. Fund v. Pub. Co. Accounting Oversight Bd. (2010), 'Chief Justice Roberts: "the people do not vote for the 'Officers of the United States.'" Rather, "officers of the United States" are appointed exclusively pursuant to Article II, Section 2 procedures. It follows that the President, who is an elected official, is not an "officer of the United States."'

In United States v. Mouat (188, 'Justice Samuel Miller interpreted a statute that used the phrase "officers of the United States." He wrote, "unless a person in the service of the government, therefore, holds his place by virtue of an appointment by the president, or of one of the courts of justice or heads of departments authorized by law to make such an appointment, he is not strictly speaking, an officer of the United States."'

This was within 2 decades of ratification.

'In 1943, Attorney General Francis Biddle cited Miller's opinion, and explained that "under the Constitution of the United States, all its officers were appointed by the President . . . or heads of departments or the courts of law."'

'In 2007, the Office of Legal Counsel reaffirmed this position. The Executive Branch has long taken the position that the phrase "officers of the United States" does not extend beyond persons appointed pursuant to Article II, Section 2 procedures.'

'During the 1876 impeachment trial of William Belknap, Senator Newton Booth from California observed, "the President is not an officer of the United States."'

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/2...ses-of-section-3-of-the-fourteenth-amendment/

 

This is about eligibility- quite frankly, as an Aussie who has had more than one overseas born PM I think it is more than unfair that people born overseas are not allowed to run or… how about people who have already served two terms - why not let Obama run again?

 

In actual fact at the moment he is only removed from the primaries

 

Aussies can do whatever you want. I have no problem with the requirement that our POTUS be born here. A big no thanks on a third Obama term. We are essentially in the midst of that under Potato anyway. I'm big on term limits. Would love to have them for both chambers of Congress, but they would have to be the ones to pass them. And that isn't happening obviously. Our Congress is notoriously unpopular, and their refusal to set term limits on themselves is a big part of it with some of us. Career politicians are not public servants, and they tend to get corrupted and self-serving over time.

 

biden will never be kicked off any vote…. Nor will ANY career politician (on either side), Ever….

My favorite part of this argument (biden vs. President Trump) is how all the biden voters keep screaming at the top of their lungs: “TRUMP WILL BE A DICTATOR IF HE’S RE-ELECTED!!!”

Well, we already had Trump for one term and there was no dictatorship. (and do not try entering 1/6 unless you can DEFEND THE 2020 RIOTS.)

Now, as stated above, my favorite part: biden “playing” the clueless man that he CLEARLY is keeps trying to reinforce: “President Trump wants to be a dictator, just like CNN did back in 2016:
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/10/...t-jail-opposition-second-presidential-debate/

CNN has run no such articles recently, very interesting.

The funny part of this is: President Trump DID NOT jail, nor TRY to jail his political opponents. Simple common sense: “Lock her up”, WAS SIMPLY A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN.

Now all these biden supporters are perfectly OK with “locking up” bidens political opponent, or TRYING TO KEEP Trump OFF THE BALLOT, (OBVIOUS DICTATOR MOVES), KNOWING that President Trump has NEVER BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING these completely worthless and pathetic politicians have thrown at him, WHILE USING OUR TAX MONEY..

Bottom line: just use your common sense and you will get my point.

I mean, come on…..

It’s all fueled by pure hate from the OBVIOUS CORRUPT POLITICIANS in charge.

 

Interesting Seems he is a dictator already.......as in your mind he is still POTUS and thus defied the electoral process when in reality he lost. That tis exactly how dictators want their followers to think and believe.
It is not something that happens overnight. It is a lot more subtle than that as it is insidious. Facts and truth are lies.......while everything thedear leader says is acceptable.
The thing is that academic scholars have the same concerns about the potential of his behavior. Some of whom have expressed these concerns on reliable programs like BBC "Hard Talk"

 

@Kat236
I am amazed that our president "speaks dictator" and not a peep as we see it being carried out under the guise of "legitimate efforts of the Constitution"

Remember, Biden has weaponized our government to go after his opponent... dicktater Joe Biden should have been impeached for that right off the bat...
Here is what a dicktater sounds like...
Biden threatened Trump.... Listen to the man words... communist dictators say those sort of things
"We have to demonstrate that [Trump] will not take power if he does run. Making sure he under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, does not become the next president again."
https://rumble.com/v34w72i-joe-bide...overnment-to-keep-trump-from-running-aga.html

 

Rumble - bet it is edited to a faretheewell

 

Hummm, there is a bunch of them in the Big House for seditious conspiracy......ask yourself who was going to benefit from this seditious conspiracy if they had succeeded with the plan? OK, wait don't, you won't like the answer...

 

And the SCOTUS has already stated this claim has no standing.

Making an unprecedented claim isn't a good thing, it means nobody in history has even considered such a claim.

We also have never had Democrats caught in thousands of lies 24/7 attacking a single president in history just to remove him from office. Trying to falsely accuse a sitting president of being a Russian spy to remove him? Falsifying documents to judges to get illegal FISA warrants to spy on his campaign? 25 FBI and other federal officers removed from duty for their participation is falsifying information to remove a sitting president? Thats treason.
But now we are supposed to believe them? I don't trust this government as far as I can kick a 55 chevy.

They already have.

Questioning results is not an insurrection
A 3 hour riot is not an insurrection
But if it is, then Democrats refusing to certify electors in 2016 is an insurrection
Democrats running adds for electors to change their votes in 2016 is an insurrection
Democrats starting impeachment the day Trump took office to remove him from office is an insurrection
Democrats falsifying claims and investigations to remove him from office is an insurrection
The FBI falsifying documents to federal judges to get illegal FISA warrants to remove a sitting president is an insurrection

It shows a history of Democrats trying to take the constitution out of context to make claims that always fail.
Just like this one

The SCOTUS can't make that claim. The 6th amendment is clear. Without a conviction no judge or justice can convict anyone of anything.

Its funny how you claim what an insurrection is while ignoring the acts of your own party.
Charging an ex president, running for office with a civil claim of bank fraud while at the same time not even having any bank that will testify that Trump committed bank fraud is election interference.
Using Jack Smith file charges against Trump who's history shows his cases are either shot down by the SCOTUS or wind up with hung juries because his wild claims don't follow actual laws or statutes shows the desperation of the left and this government.

The fact that you willingly ignore everything done by Democrats just to get Trump, means you willingly accept this behavior from one side while at the same time condemn it from the other.

 

Is that a serious question? When that Clinton plan fraudlant "intel" was knowingly used by our own intel agencies to illegally obtain unverified FISA warrants and start $40 million fake investigations? When Obama and Biden knew of the two spy stings to entrap an American citizen overseas using the "five eyes" ring to go around law against the US spying on it's own citizen... treason is just the start...

 

Show me where Obama or Biden directed anyone to do anything. Show me where Obama and Biden directed a plan to obtain FISA warrants.

 

No, it is receiving money. Do you bother to read the posts to which you respond and spend even a second thinking about what you write?

 

Sorry, all I heard was "peaceful protest or march". Can you quote him telling anyone to attack anyone? The ONLY ones who incited were a bunch of "unnamed" individuals miles away at the actual capitol. Don't know what words YOU heard? CNN? MSNBC? =)

 

If you need to ignore the Loser's injunction, after lying about the election result, to to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell" and need to pretend that the Loser did not watch his goons savaging outnumbered police defending democracy for four hours, ignoring the pleas of aides, advisers, family, media enablers, and others, your dogmatic beliefs are not amenable to reason.

 

Learn how security works at the capitol and who's actually in charge. And you know, loads of politicians have used the term fight like hell endless times. There are plenty of youtube compilations, but NICE TRY, good JOB=)
'Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard' That's about as literal as it gets.

And according to all the video INSIDE the capital, can you show the violence or rampaging people? We do have hours of people walking around, shaking hands with cops, certainly tresspassing, IDIOTS for doing it, but then again, if the cops are chatting and allowing you to walk around, how violent was it? The same short clips of the same incident shown on a loop is NOT indicitive of what ACTUALLY happened. That's why it took so long for all the video to be shown, because if they showed the ACTUAL video and not short clips of ONLY the violent people in one location, people would have gotten a far more truthful view of what actually happened there. But I'm sure you just ignored the vast majority of video and just watch what CNN wants you to see=) Low info voter.

 

What if they just deported Joe? He's not acting like an American. Joe tells us BS stories regularly; there no reason to believe anything other than what he says is generally untrue.

 

How about fact checking all his words and see how the results add up.
When a group accepts the lies of a master manipulator, they have lost credibility and the core of what is actually factual. Their only recourse is to project onto those that see things differently.. and blame them. Mind you , if the MAGA gang relies on sources like social media....... that would explain their position. OTOH...... there is a saturation of "information" now so it can lead to folks being selective as to what they choose to believe.

 

Directly, addressing the thread's topic, Texas will never concoct pretexts to prevent the President from being on the ballot because there is no credible evidence for doing so.

 

That's just as ridiculous.

 

Can you please clarify the highlighted points from your post?

 

Can you please clarify what you are saying here?

 

THIS WE MUTUALLY AGREE UPON!!

What has happened to our country has taken a very long time to happen.

20 years ago the taxpayers of our country would PUT THESE WORTHLESS POLITICIANS IN THEIR PLACE.

Today, they just pack up and run from their home/state. Pathetic.

This has been my point concerning ALL politicians.

The TAXPAYERS are TERRIFIED of their ELECTED officials.

Our constitution was written so the CITIZENS WILL NEVER SUFFER THE TYRANNY OF THE POLITICIANS/OUR GOVERNMENT.

Texas nor ANY STATE WILL “KICK” biden or any other career politician off of their ballots. They will only kick “outsiders” like President Trump off because he disrupts the corruption.

 

Rumble is a host site for you tube/ podcasts of the, let’s say, conspiracy theory variety. Very little on there is trustworthy
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rumble/