Nikki's taking off the gloves.

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  1. Melb_muser

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    Replace 'we' with 'I' and I have no issue with this post.
     
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    If you would take those partisan binary blinders off, you might be able to realize that when I say something I speak for myself and just because I have a political opinion shared by others doesn't mean that they speak for me or that I speak for them.

    I know it's a very novel concept....
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have to say I haven't heard a lot about the possibility of a No Label ticket. Aren't there hurdles to get on a national ballot?
     
  4. Jack Hays

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    No candidate is ever a spoiler. Candidates win or lose on their own.
    We have secret ballots; I see no reason why donors should be compelled to be public.
     
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    Why would Trump want a VP that is being endorsed by Democrats the swamped and the LSM?
     
  6. Jack Hays

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    It's 50 state ballots. They're working on it.
     
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    Just like every other GOP politician in America, Nikki is too coward to stand up to Trump. She had 4 years to stand up to Trump and she didn’t. Nikki is so afraid of MAGA that she can’t even say in the past many American intuition discriminated African American.

    She is putting her hope that she will do better then Descants until SCOTUS gives their opinion. Her entire strategy today is SCOTUS will say trump can’t be on the ballot and GOP will have no choice but to pick her. That might work to get the GOP nomination but that will not work road to WH.
     
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    Like every other Republican candidate, Haley's knows that to win she needs a coalition including both never-Trumpers and Trump loyalists. Democrats know this too, which is why they keep trying to force Republicans to choose one or the other.
     
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    Because a ballot is "one person, one vote"

    Donations are weighted according to how much you give. We, the people, should know what big dollar donors are backing the candidates so we can know what their likely policies are going to be if elected.
     
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    Donations to candidates are limited.
     
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    Yet, you are not willing to acknowledge that a third party candidate will like take more votes away from Biden than Trump, and could easily become a spoiler in swing states. Trump supporters will not vote for anyone else if he's on the ballot. As for the donors being secret, we know who donor support the traditional parties, no labels should not be a mystery given the stakes of the 2024 election and democratic freedom. Any vote that ends up putting Trump back in power is not to be taken lightly IMO, but I am a never Trumper.
     
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    No Labels will also draw Never-Biden voters. If No Labels has a candidate, donors to him/her will be subject to the same rules as donor to the Republican and Democrat candidates.
    I have no obligation to compensate either party for nominating an unacceptable candidate.
     
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    Irelevant if they end up putting Trump in the WH, which is fully contrary you posts about global and national security. Biden is much more in line with those posts, so again, IMO, a voter for no labels this time around is, a vote defacto for Trump. Sorry, but it's not something I will gamble with in 2024.
     
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    And a vote for Biden is a vote for climate madness, Afghanistan dishonor and border chaos.
     
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    Or a bromance
     
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    The dishonor was going there in the first place like we were some kind of Macedonian that conquered the world.
     
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    So I take it your primary issues are climate and border? Mine are democratic freedom and national and globe security. Based on your post I'll assume you are OK with Trump in the WH, Putin loves third party votes in swing states.
     
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    I'm not OK with either Trump or Biden, but I will not be blackmailed into voting for a repugnant candidate.
    Democratic freedom is not at risk.
     
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    "Blackmailed", interesting reflexive (?) perspective, wow.... anyway, we can go back and forth but no way I gamble with Russia and China with a 3rd party vote and zero chance of them winning. I like the world order under western control with America in the lead role. Last word is yours good sir.
     
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    Nikki is an empty suit. It's obvious how she is guided by focus groups. If a focus group says it's slightly better to not attack Trump, she doesn't. When the focus group tells her she has to, she does.

    NO personal convictions. NOTHING based on her real thoughts or ideas. Just... whatever the focus group says.

    Pathetic!
     
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    You ARE being blackmailed into voting for a repugnant candidate. Whether you want to or not. You are blackmailed by the choices at your disposal. Voting third party or not voting is the same as voting for the most repugnant of the two.

    So a good option does NOT exist for you.
     
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    Too little, too late.
     
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    In an era of unattractive choices I limit my objective to keeping my own conscience clear. That includes the option of voting for no one if necessary.
     
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    She knows she needs a coalition encompassing both never-Trumpers and Trump loyalists.
     
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    Biden's hesitation about a border deal has already created an opportunity for the Russians. That deal was there but now may be slipping away. Fortunately the Euros are stepping up on Ukraine as we falter.
     

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