Trump's trial in E. Jean Carroll defamation case begins

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    Mate, you can just about guarantee that if I ask a question, I already know the answer. What I try to do is to use questions which will enable/assist the person I am addressing to see the folly of their position for themself.

    If there was relevant evidence, it would have been allowed, and if evidence which should have been allowed was excluded from a Jury, then Humpty can appeal that. I have not seen any appeal made by him on that basis. Have you?
     
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    Yeah. Like I said, just jump to your usual meaningless conclusion of rolling on the ground laughing emoji
     
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    And the DISadvantage of not seeing any evidence that the jury got by being in the courtroom.
     
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    There is not a shred of evidence. Only the testimony of Jean Carroll and the recollections of conversations from 28 years ago.
     
  5. Egoboy

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    Don't forget about that "hush money".....

    :roll::roll:
     
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    There was no hush money. Only Jeans desire to get some.
     
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    Witness testimony IS evidence.

    Importantly - and something you seem to ignore - is the fact that there was NO evidence that the assault didn’t happen.

    The only evidence in front of the jury was Carroll’s testimony, and that of her corroborating witnesses that she told on the day, that the assault did occur. Trump never denied it.

    He didn’t deny it. Think about that.
     
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    Plus Trump's brag that he just "grabs em by the ********"
     
  9. Egoboy

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    OMG.... if she wanted "hush money" she wouldn't have filed a public lawsuit...

    Classic stuff here... Among my favorites...
     
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    Well, that's actually real.... the "hush money" angle is some brand new batshit crazy (and completely nonsensical) conspiracy theory made up in THIS very thread.

    You should be honored to be there for its birth.
     
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    ???? She released the book and filed the lawsuit because she couldnt get any hush money. This conversation is pointless as you have some alternate definition of what hush money even is.
     
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    Then the Orange Stain is an even bigger moron than even I give him credit for : he should have paid up. It’s not like it’s his money. His sheep keep donating even today.

    How much have YOU given ?
     
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    Perhaps he preferred a civil case from the crazy lady over another bogus criminal prosecution from Allen Bragg for hush money.
     
  14. AmericanNationalist

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    She didn't prove it either. A claim unchallenged is not 'proven', it just isn't challenged. You can then judge it on its own veracity. Her claims and the physical inconsistencies with said claims, give pause to doubt that's higher than reasonable. If this case was in, say Arizona or Kansas, instead of New York she would've lost it.

    Luckily for her, she filed suit in NY.
     
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    Once again a non lawyer offering opinions on legal matters.
     
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    That's not evidence, the only reason the court accepted it as evidence, is because this is a civil(not a criminal trial) but even with that, this is dubious to be accepted. She said X, she told other people of X and that's supposed to be evidence?

    We know Trump has had his DNA taken now, it should be quite possible to connect that DNA to the semen on her dress(I still can't believe she kept that dress, absurd)

    Unless given the aging of the semen(seriously, 28 years), I doubt very much it's an article you can test.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/getting-pregnant/expert-answers/pregnancy/faq-20058504

    "Sperm can also be preserved for decades when semen is frozen." So, did she freeze the dress until the moment? Did she cut the pieces of cloth containing semen so she could stuff it in a freezer?

    I wish Trump did participate in this trial, litigant's claims are flimsier than flim itself. Trump need not provide any proof in this trial, a good 'mad dog attack' defender would've had the good ole 'sexist' articles printed in 24 hours LMAO.
     
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    So do you disqualify yourself from also having opinions in this post? Or are you citing any legal professional experience on your part?
     
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    CNN reporting it sounds like Mango will be taking the stand today..... Judge is going over the "rules" (Ha Ha - Trump and rules) and Habba has said she only has 3 questions for him, so she's obvioiusly trying to keep his time up there as limited as possible. I wonder if she is familiar with the concept of cross examination??

    Habba's 3 questions

    1. Why did God send you to us?
    2. How did Crooked Joe Biden steal your election?
    3. Explain why you are too handsome and great to have touched this scaggy old lady?
     
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    Baliff - "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"
    Defendant - "ELECTION INTERFERENCE.... WITCH HUNT.... NO COLLUSION...... NIKKI NIKKI NIKKI"
     
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    He did it... finally kept a promise to take the stand.... now we'll see how long he manages to stay there without straying from the parameters...

    I have under 3 minutes...

    Ooops... he's already done.... didn't have much to say it seems.

    Court is adjourned for the day.... to fumigate...

    Can't imagine this blip had any impact on the jury, but it's being reported he didn't totally go off the rails.... Truly Amazing day!! Like watching your infants first steps...
     
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    E. Jean Carroll asks for $10 million in compensation.

    But Trump's attitude will sink him.

    Last night, he posted 37 personal attacks against his victim and it goes on and on.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the jury fined him $100-150 million.
     
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    This afternoon was the first time I heard a TV person mention the possibility of a 9 digit punitive finding. They said that would be tough if the damages was only @ 10-12 million, as courts don't like the punitive to be that much more.

    But it might be a number that gets his limited attention... I wonder how long this jury will take to decide? Rudy's jury took @ 10 hours for his verdict.

    But that jury was allowed to start on a Thursday. This one will start on a Friday, which might speed things up a bit.

    Bad day coming for Captain Creep eventually...
     
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    The jury will eviscerate him, with an order to seize his assets to cover the amount of compensation.
     
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    Semi-humorous recap of the events of yesterday. I mostly post this for the courtroom sketch of Mango on the stand. It's actually one of the best ones capturing his painted face, which makes one queston why that many Americans support a man that dependent on face covering products..

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-had-very-good-reason-000337003.html
     
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