Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

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  1. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Democrats have been making it dirty for more than six years now.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You still believe in Russia collusion.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden has given Putin every reason to endorse him, from the weakness that encouraged him to invade Ukraine in 2022 to his abject mental incompetence to his shutting down new LNG export terminals. He's the gift that keeps on giving Russia everything it wants.

    I wish I could roflol about that and how he's the gift that keeps on giving to China and Iran, too, but at least I'm not responsible for putting him in office.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And he blatantly lied about me in his post.

    No fiction is too outrageous....including the one in his signature. :lol:
     
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    The New York 3rd District special election to replace George Santos (R) was dominated by advertising on two issues: immigration ads attacking Suozzi (D) and abortion ads attacking Pilip (R). I would expect the fall campaigns in purple districts to be similar, with huge spending on attack ads on a relatively few issues chosen because of the opposition's perceived vulnerability. Control of the House and Senate is more important than the Presidential election. The only positive campaigning will be a brief burst before election day funded by the candidate's campaign, rather than a PAC.
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only if it's funny....
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't Putin who said Hunter's laptop was a Russian operation

    It wasn't Putin who censored all talk of Hunter's laptop.

    It wasn't Putin who got 51 intelligence people to say the laptop was a Russian operation.

    It wasn't Putin who said Trump colluded with Russia.

    It wasn't Putin who went to Obama and informed him of Cliton's plan to tie Trump to Russia.

    It wasn't Putin who said our border is secure as millions of illegals marched across it which we could see with our own eyes.

    It wasn't Putin who launched operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    In all of the above, it was our own government who lied to us and worked against an American candidate.
     
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    It's hard to imagine Trump or his RWM lapdogs lying any more than they already do. Though it needs to be recognized that he is desperate to win the election in order to avoid facing prosecution for his various crimes. So, we should all be ready for anything he and his campaign might do. That is to say, more than the despicable, traitorous, illegal acts of soliciting Russia and Ukraine's help to get elected. More than making false accusations about election integrity. More than trying to hijack the RNC to pay for his legal defenses. Everything is on the table. I'm sure he'll think of something previously thought to be unimaginable as he has in the past.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    The maga that invaded the capital, Jan 6th. They are needed for...you know....'other projects'.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. It turns out it was Putin's AGENT called Smirnoff. Planted by Putin to misinform the FBI and Congress. You might remember him because Jim Jordan said it was his "start witness" against Hunter.

    Boy! Did THAT narrative fall flat on its face!

    But it IS a clear example of how Putin will try to use fake information to help his favorite Orange pet back in the presidency.
     
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    What "illegal acts of soliciting Russia" are you referring to?
     
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  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Funny how smirnov gets indicted, then he says, "oh! It was the Russians!".

    Awfully convenient. Wouldn't you say?...lol
     
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    Oh no! You're telling me that you came to the realization that Jim Jordan's "star witness", the guy upon who this case you've been promoting for MONTHS would prove some sort of "conspiracy" between Hunter and his dad has been...(gasp!)... lying?

    What a revelation!
     
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  14. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    What I'm seeing is an informant, who worked for the FBI for TEN YEARS, went public with some dirt on Biden and THEN got indicted for lying to the FBI.

    Then...THEN...hr comes out saying "But, it was the Russians!"

    Nothing fishy looking at all about that...lol
     
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    So, you DO believe Putin. Duly noted.
     
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  16. MiaBleu

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    Add AI into the mix and reality as we knew it goes poof!!!. Given the influences of dictators in US elections......who exactly is running this nation?? With these influences... how can anyone be declared properly elected ??? IF Trump is elected......WHO will he be beholding to??
    Yes. it is rather grim. Brutal, and bordering on uncivilized. Tose are symptoms of larger problems of deterioration.
     
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    Indeed. It is bad enough that things have gotten so dirty/ ugly IN the US.....but the active intrusion and influence of Russia et all has made things worse.
    Factual information is gold. But it is ignored in favor of nonsense from Social media and outlets like Fox which is now extremist and fanatical. The tragedy is that the Right have illingly allowed the influence of Putin.
     
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  18. Golem

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    Oh... I see. And you're having problems telling apart fact from fiction, right? It figures that you would. You're not the only right winger with that problem. So let me tell you ONE rule of thumb that RATIONAL people use.

    When somebody says something to SAVE themselves from prison, they might be lying. But when they say something that would INCRIMINATE them, they are usually telling the truth.

    In this case, dirt about Biden is what Smirnoff was hired by Putin to feed Jordan and other Republicans. So if he says they are true, despite the fact that we now know they were made up, he's lying to save himself. BUT, if he says it was fed by Russia... that goes BEYOND lying to the FBI (a relatively lesser charge). It makes him a SPY. So it would be idiotic to think that he's lying.
     
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  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Y'all really need to put the Russian collusion lie to bed...lol
     
  20. MiaBleu

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    Informants as a rule have credibility issues. The FBI continuously weighs the weight ,, value of what they are getting against that credibility issues. This informant might have been useful in other ways.....and then things went sideways. The real issue is the motive of the R's to impeach Biden. It is proving to be nothing more than an ongoing vendetta. You can also bet that Trumps aft little fingers are involved . The R's don't do anything without their dear leaders' permission or encouragement. And he is not even in power. That is how low things have sunk. Of course Putin (being considerably smarter ) sees the dynamics happening and is happy to insert information or himself to further create chaos .. knowing that a democracy is vulnerable to division & interference.
     
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    The FBI employed a Russian spy for TEN YEARS and didn't know it?...lol

    BTW, everything I posted is an established fact.
     
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    Democracy only works if there's division...lol. Democracy doesn't require everyone to agree.
     
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    Most false info and Russian propaganda for sure, but 2016 was dirtiest because we had to watch Trump take turns in publicly insulting every GOP candidate, and there were many of them. And we saw Ted Cruz eat his own booger. Oh, and Trump also insulted the debate hosts, like Meagan Kelly about her periods, and a other people who were not even there, like Cruz wife. This time there are less people to insult, so he will pour it on only the select few.
     
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    I don't know. That's what JORDAN says. You can imagine the level of credibility we can ascribe to Jordan.

    Or maybe you can't. You already admitted you have problems spotting fake statements. Well, I'll just say this: anything Jordan says... very likely a lie! Just because of the fact that it's JORDAN who said it.
     
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    Ignore Putin's INFLUENCE at ones own peril. He is a lot more strategic in his thinking , ( and devious ) than he might appear. he FACT that Trump admires him so much , puts Trump in a questionable position of where do his loyalties lie??? The two men share their love and obsession of and for ABSOLUTE power.
     

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