Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you saw the dates on that video you say are short lived.. Here is another you got wrong

    1. www.npr.org › 2019/03/24 › 706385781Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion : NPR
      Mar 24, 2019 · Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion. The Mueller Report did not find any evidence of collusion, but did find two main efforts by the Russians to interfere in the...

    2. apnews.com › united-states-government-3053d226815eNo collusion: Key takeaways from Mueller’s Russia findings
      NO COLLUSION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA. Mueller made that clear. Barr quotes Mueller’s confidential report as saying the investigation “did not establish that members of
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What I would like you to do is to stop trying to derail this thread.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Now THAT, on the other hand, DOES go directly to the point of this thread. To prove that MAGAs are more exposed to FALSE information than the rest of folks. And the reason is that they JUMP into the first information they receive. And, if it's something that pleases "the Orange Idol", they become completely blind and deaf to anything that happens after that.

    Barr made a FAKE summary of the Mueller Report. And neither Mueller himself, or judges later adjudicating that Barr basically LIED will make any difference in the minds of MAGAs

    https://www.npr.org/2019/05/01/7190...ng-concern-about-barr-s-summary-of-his-report
    https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...eggie-walton-fe8eee387b53888c478a24021fc101aa

    This is EXACTLY what will happen... again and again... during the time between now and the elections. MAGAs will blindly believe fake propaganda... most of it by Russians. And will repeat it over and over no matter how many times it is PROVEN false. Just like Barr's recount of the Mueller Report was proven fake.
     
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    These are from PAGE 6, Long before I addressed your post on this narrative..

    Follow you own rules bro ;)
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No he didn't. Mueller himself said they could find no evidence to charge Trump with collusion with Russia. But he didn't clear him or charge him with obstruction. Over 5 years later he still hasn't been charged with obstruction.

     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know Golem, for a guy to have enough guts to put this on every post " It took me a long time to research the validity of my arguments, and I suggest you do the same" it seems you don't do such a good job validifying your information. Most of what you say is wrong.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And this is ANOTHER reason why MAGAs are the most vulnerable to fake news. They are completely oblivious of FACTS.

    Here is the FACT: "Collusion" is NOT a crime. It's immoral, but not a crime. We knew he wasn't going to be charged BEFORE the Mueller Report. But that doesn't mean the Trump campaign didn't collude with Russia, like you were led to believe by fake news. They most certainly did!
     
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  8. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But here is a fact you want to ignore. Trump was cleared of that, crime or not.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Exactly the opposite. Trump was NOT cleared. You are STILL believing the fake propaganda that Barr put out before releasing the Mueller Report. Propaganda that was rebutted by the Mueller report (when finally released), by Mueller, and by COURTS. But you'll never know because you'll refuse to read the report.

    So here is where I make the point in the OP: MAGAs are the most vulnerable to all the fake propaganda that we will be seeing in the next few months. They WANT to believe that Trump is not a criminal. They also WANT to believe that everything that Trump has done and said has been said by Biden or Democrats. So they will accept like Gospel Truth anything that fulfills these wishes. And it makes no difference to them if they are later proven false. They'll cling to them forever. Just like you're clinging to the Barr fake summary.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats are the same way. They believe everything their leadership says.For decades both Dems and Rep have said that not protecting our border is harmful. All spoke out against it. Even Obama spoke out on it. Obama even said


    President Barack Obama once declared that an influx of illegal immigrants will harm “the wages of blue-collar Americans” and “put strains on an already overburdened safety net.” “[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border. “The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century,” Obama noted. “If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”

    Most Americans agreed with that. But today Biden is flooding our country with illegals and anyone who disagrees with his policy is a racist. Democrats repeat the now Party line, they are all seeking refuge in America because their life has been threatened at home. Democrats don't believe Biden broke the law by taking files home he had no right to have as VP. He even had them scattered all over, most in a open box in his garage and even had some in his car. They believe this even when the FBI said he broke the law. The Democrats don't believe that Hillary broke the law and the FBI also admits she did. Both sides believe the horse crap coming out of their leadership. They believe it because they want to. They don't want to believe they have lied to them, even though they know they did. Both sides want to be good little Democrats and Republicans and not speak bad about their Party. But you only want to see it as only Republicans do it. Your oblivious as to what your side is doing.

    I'll prove my point. Look at the thread I put up on the Ten best Presidents. Obama was ranked as one of the best and Trump and Reagan last. Go check out their records as President and tell me that's true
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm happy that you acknowledge that Republicans do that. Which could not be any different given the abundance of example. Including your posts in this thread. However, is you want to say Democrats do the same, you would have to, at a minimum, provide the same level of evidence I showed. Otherwise, it's just projection.

    I disagree. I don't know what Obama's arguments were based on. And, if you agree with him, you would need to provide them (in a thread where that is the topic). I have never seen any evidence of this. Evidence I have seen, and showed, is that illegal immigrants have an "adaptation cost" when they first enter. But then it's only benefits to the economy.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...legal-immigrants-benefit-this-country.549973/

    But again, not interested in going off topic. If you want to discuss the above, do it in the appropriate thread.

    Provide a link.
     
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    I say it again. Biden is in only because T**** is. He knows that any Democrat candidate will suffer enormous abuse by T**** and it's best to wait until T**** is no longer a candidate because of his having to declare bankruptcy and flee the country from criminal cases into exile with his bankruptcy proof PAC money. The hope is sooner rather than later.
     
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    Oh, poor little Trumpster. He attacks others constantly and you're worried that some of it comes back to him? Oh please.
    I thought it wasn't high enough. I thought it should have been a couple of billion, and maybe we could send this guy to a trailer park to live out rest of his life in poverty, for his having a lived a life time of screwing people.
    Democrats had nothing to do with the verdict in New York. Read the indictment document for the meticulous facts the ruling was based on. Justice, and only justice, was the ruling NY.

    That's odd, you complain about 'dirty campaign' because 'trump is under attack'.

    Did you complain when he called dems 'vermin'?

    Did you complain when he called mexicans 'rapists'?

    Did you complain when he said that immigrants are poisoning America?

    Did you complain when he invited two nazi sympathizers for dinner?

    Did you complain when he told millions, and continues to tell millions, that Democrats rigged the election, when he first told this the first ballot had yet to be cast?

    I could go on, but why bother?
     
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    I have little sympathy for Trump. However, the attacks on him are bordering on the absurd. The latest example is New York imposing a half billion dollar fine.
     

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